$2000 - Sig P210 or KRISS VECTOR ?

[JackRydden224]

I'm gonna have about $2000 to spend on something nice. I don't like ARs and I already have an AK. I reload both 9mm and .45 ACP. I'm looking at getting a Sig P210 or a KRISS Vector. What are your thoughts my brothers and sisters in arms?

[!@#$]

the KRISS is a worthless POS unless it's full auto.

[JackRydden224]

the KRISS is a worthless POS unless it's full auto.

So a $350 high point is just as good or maybe a $450 Marlin Camp 9/45

[unusedusername]

KRISS is mostly for looks. Without a stock it won't be too easy to aim. The entire point of that gun is controllability under full auto fire, and ease of use in SBR format, both of which you can't do. It would make an impressive showpiece though.

Parts availability will be hard though if you actually shoot it a lot.

P210s are nice. Parts are very expensive but they are around and not going anywhere. Magazines are insanely expensive. Were you thinking an old P210 or one of the new ones?

A P210 won't look as evil in your gun safe, but it will hit the target better then a stockless KRISS pistol.

[JackRydden224]

KRISS is mostly for looks. Without a stock it won't be too easy to aim. The entire point of that gun is controllability under full auto fire, and ease of use in SBR format, both of which you can't do. It would make an impressive showpiece though.

Parts availability will be hard though if you actually shoot it a lot.

P210s are nice. Parts are very expensive but they are around and not going anywhere. Magazines are insanely expensive. Were you thinking an old P210 or one of the new ones?

A P210 won't look as evil in your gun safe, but it will hit the target better then a stockless KRISS pistol.

I've always preferred a classier look versus a scary look. The Evil Black Rifle look never had much appeal on me. To me, a rifle with a nice wood stock is more attractive than a cold EBR on any given day.

I think at the same price point, the Sig P210 legend is the better choice for me. Impact guns sells magazines for $80 a pop which isn't too bad compare to the $150 on gunbroker.

[The Gleam]

I'm gonna have about $2000 to spend on something nice. I don't like ARs and I already have an AK. I reload both 9mm and .45 ACP. I'm looking at getting a Sig P210 or a KRISS Vector. What are your thoughts my brothers and sisters in arms?

The SIG P210 has been made for over 60 years; you didn't indicate what year, "dash number" or type to which you are referring (including the latest rendition). The cost can vary.

Typically a plain-jane M-49 will go for about $1600 to $2,300 in CA; they usually show wear either from carrying or holstering, but might not have been shot much. they are well made but more utilitarian than later versions. Tolerances are tight but not as tight as those from the 1970s and 1980s. (I have on from 1953 by example).

As for other types and commercial/civilian target models, they'll usually go for much more, from $2,500 as high as up to $4000 (not including the special engraved/target models). A couple of the target models with threaded barrels can't be had in CA unless you do something to change the barrel or ??

While I hate Wikipedia for info, the following list came from there:

SIG P210-1: The commercial version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, fixed sights, and polished blued finish.

SIG P210-2: The original Swiss army version chambered in 9 mm Luger, with plastic grips, fixed sights, and bead blasted finish.

SIG P210-3: The Swiss police version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, fixed sights, and polished blued finish.

SIG P210-4: The German border guards Bundesgrenzschutz issue chambered in 9 mm Luger, a modified version of the P210-2 that omits the lanyard loop and includes a loaded chamber indicator. Serial numbers are D 0001 to D 5000.

SIG P210-5: The sports extended barrel version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood grips, an adjustable trigger, a 150 mm extended barrel with a detachable front sight mount, adjustable target sights, and bead blasted finish.

SIG P210-6: The sports (120 mm barrel) version chambered in 9 mm Luger and .30 Luger, with wood or plastic grips, an adjustable trigger, fixed or adjustable sights, and bead blasted finish, built on the standard or heavy frame.

SIG P210-7: The .22 LR rimfire version with wood or plastic grips, fixed or adjustable sights, the latter version fitted with a special cut down hammer. The special slide, barrel, recoil spring, and magazine fitted to this pistol are available as a conversion kit adaptable to all P210 centerfire models.

SIG P210-8: The deluxe sports version chambered in 9 mm Luger, with a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, an adjustable trigger, adjustable sights, and bead blasted finish, built on the heavy frame.

SIG P210-5LS: The 2003 version chambered in 9 mm Luger, which has a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, adjustable sights, bead blasted finish, and a longer slide and barrel fitted on the heavy frame.

SIG P210-6S: The 2003 version chambered in 9 mm Luger, which has a side mounted magazine catch, wood grips, adjustable sights, bead blasted finish, and a standard slide and barrel fitted on the heavy frame.

[JackRydden224]

Gleam,

I'm actually looking for the P210 Legend which is the modern iteration of the classic.

[The Gleam]

Gleam,

I'm actually looking for the P210 Legend which is the modern iteration of the classic.

Not a fan of it, primarily because they botched the controls, but it's not a bad gun either. I believe they typically go for around $2500 .

Good luck.

[jyo]

I've had an older SIG P210-2 since the late 80s---wonderful pistol---very accurate---very well-made. Yeah, magazine prices are up there (fortunately, I bought plenty of mags back then), but the gun will hold it's value and provide years of shooting enjoyment.
My P210 spends most of it's time with the factory 22lr conversion kit installed---the mags are even more expensive and harder to find, but again, I bought some way back at a lower price than today---if you can find them.

[sfbay]

I just bought a P210 Legend and am waiting for it to get here from the east coast. I've wanted one ever since I saw one for the first time!

I didn't know Impact guns had magazines for $80! wow! That's about half off of Gunbroker.

Dont' wait as long as I did, just pull the trigger and get it!

[saki302]

I had a Kriss and traded it. It was fairly fun to shoot, but didn't do anything my buddy's thompson wouldn't do.

It's still heavy, shoots a pistol cal, and still has kick (though no muzzle rise).

It's also not built like a brick sh%$house like the Thompson is. Even the semi thompson with the extra parts would be hard to wear out or kill.

Go for the P210. It's a classic and always will be. If you want a .45 carbine, go for a Thompson or USC.

-Dave

[Maddog5150]

Kriss, buy it, turn around and sell it for 100,000,000 dollars in a few months! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Garand1911]

SIG P210 hands down.

Ive shot the kriss, im not impressed.
Ive seen it shoot full auto, not impressed, not very controllable. At least the dealer/shooter sucked *** using it.

[bsg]

P210 would be my choice.