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  • DMan8
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 167

    just a quick question for a newbie first time buyer

    Hi guys! just a quick question from a newb. I apologise in advance if its been asked too many times. I've been trying to do my own research but am unsure if I covered everything.

    So I'm thinking about picking up a Ruger 10/22 as my first. What sort of extra fees am I looking at? I'm thinking about picking it up from a sporting goods store. I know there's DROS and FFL fees but is there anything else? How much on top of the firearm am I expecting to pay?

    And what kind of paperwork/documents will I need to do/provide? I have no problems with background checks I used to work for the military and had extensive checks so I'm as clean as they come. Just wanted to know what to expect and how much extra to pay.

    Also, if I'm buying it used from a private party, We have to do the transaction at an official dealer and all of the same fees and paperwork applies im guessing?

    Thanks for the help everyone!
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    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34926

    Welcome to calguns!

    PPT = same paperwork and with but no tax and $35 in fees

    Most important is training, practice with your gun. And make no mistake, that gun is deadly.

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    • #3
      DMan8
      Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 167

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      Welcome to calguns!

      PPT = same paperwork and with but no tax and $35 in fees

      Most important is training, practice with your gun. And make no mistake, that gun is deadly.
      Thanks for the reply and warm welcome!

      So ppt is only for private sales right? So it'll be the drops fee, the ffl fee, and then another $35 fee?

      And yes training is Paramount!

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      • #4
        berg
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1963

        Originally posted by DMan8
        Hi guys! just a quick question from a newb. I apologise in advance if its been asked too many times. I've been trying to do my own research but am unsure if I covered everything.

        So I'm thinking about picking up a Ruger 10/22 as my first. What sort of extra fees am I looking at? I'm thinking about picking it up from a sporting goods store. I know there's DROS and FFL fees but is there anything else? How much on top of the firearm am I expecting to pay?

        And what kind of paperwork/documents will I need to do/provide? I have no problems with background checks I used to work for the military and had extensive checks so I'm as clean as they come. Just wanted to know what to expect and how much extra to pay.

        Also, if I'm buying it used from a private party, We have to do the transaction at an official dealer and all of the same fees and paperwork applies im guessing?

        Thanks for the help everyone!
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        I think the Ruger is a great choice. If you are sure you will be getting it, I would look for ammunition now. .22lr will be selling out fast as it is the cheapest ammunition to buy. You should buy a few boxes of various brands because your Ruger will will have a preference and you won't know what shoots best until you experiment.

        I'd resist the urge to buy add-on stuff and concentrate on ammo and range time. Then you can branch out with different stocks and sights, etc after you've gotten a feel for the rifle and have saved up more money.
        Last edited by berg; 12-20-2012, 10:15 AM.
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        • #5
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34926

          PPT means you meet the seller there, you hand him money, he hands FFL the gun, best part is no sales tax. Just a $35 fee, I buy most all my guns PPT.

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          • #6
            one*eyed*jack
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2010
            • 589

            PPT fees are $35 total ($25 DROS and $10 to the dealer for facilitating the transfer). So if you buy a long gun from a private party and both appear at the FFL to transfer it the costs are: Sale price + $25 DROS + $10.

            If you buy a long gun from an online seller (retail or private party) that has to be shipped to your FFL it is no longer considered a PPT and the dealer can charge whatever fee they want to facilitate the transfer. If you go this route be sure to confirm the fees in advance. They can be significantly higher and they vary. In this case the costs would be: Sale price + $25 DROS + $xx Dealer fee.

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            • #7
              DMan8
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 167

              Originally posted by berg
              Click here:



              I think the Ruger is a great choice. If you are sure you will be getting it, I would look for ammunition now. .22lr will be selling out fast as it is the cheapest ammunition to buy. You should buy a few boxes of various brands because your Ruger will will have a preference and you won't know what shoots best until you experiment.

              I'd resist the urge to buy add-on stuff and concentrate on ammo and range time. Then you can branch out with different stocks and sights, etc after you've gotten a feel for the rifle and have saved up more money.
              Thanks for the tip!

              Originally posted by five.five-six
              PPT means you meet the seller there, you hand him money, he hands FFL the gun, best part is no sales tax. Just a $35 fee, I buy most all my guns PPT.
              How do I find ppt seller??

              Originally posted by one*eyed*jack
              PPT fees are $35 total ($25 DROS and $10 to the dealer for facilitating the transfer). So if you buy a long gun from a private party and both appear at the FFL to transfer it the costs are: Sale price + $25 DROS + $10.

              If you buy a long gun from an online seller (retail or private party) that has to be shipped to your FFL it is no longer considered a PPT and the dealer can charge whatever fee they want to facilitate the transfer. If you go this route be sure to confirm the fees in advance. They can be significantly higher and they vary. In this case the costs would be: Sale price + $25 DROS + $xx Dealer fee.
              Wow the fees neveer stop coming

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              • #8
                one*eyed*jack
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2010
                • 589

                Originally posted by DMan8
                How do I find ppt seller??
                Try the Private Firearm Sales forum

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                • #9
                  voiceofreason
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3785

                  1. Marlin 795 is good and quite a bit cheaper. Do some research.

                  2. ask the antis where to get the "gun show loophole" guns where you don't have to show ID or do a background check, but you can get "automatic burst" military grade rifles for cheap

                  3. bring your DL/ID and some places require a utility bill (not cell or bank) to establish residency.

                  -keep finger off trigger until sights are on target and ready to fire

                  -treat ALL guns as if they are all loaded

                  -know what is BEHIND and next to your targets

                  -secure your guns when they're not in your control (includes adults)

                  -don't point the muzzle/front at anything you aren't willing to kill/destroy

                  stay safe
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                  "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
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                  • #10
                    thy95
                    Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 188

                    Most of you guy gave correct info but not really what he asking. If buy new gun at dealer you pay price of gun plus tax and dros that it.
                    "You don't go duck shooting if one out of every twenty ducks shoots back" -- Chuck Michel, Atty, 2008.

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                    • #11
                      DMan8
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 167

                      Originally posted by voiceofreason
                      1. Marlin 795 is good and quite a bit cheaper. Do some research.

                      2. ask the antis where to get the "gun show loophole" guns where you don't have to show ID or do a background check, but you can get "automatic burst" military grade rifles for cheap

                      3. bring your DL/ID and some places require a utility bill (not cell or bank) to establish residency.

                      -keep finger off trigger until sights are on target and ready to fire

                      -treat ALL guns as if they are all loaded

                      -know what is BEHIND and next to your targets

                      -secure your guns when they're not in your control (includes adults)

                      -don't point the muzzle/front at anything you aren't willing to kill/destroy

                      stay safe
                      great tips! I am new to firearms in general and have only been to the range twice so tips like this are very helpful

                      Originally posted by thy95
                      Most of you guy gave correct info but not really what he asking. If buy new gun at dealer you pay price of gun plus tax and dros that it.
                      thanks man!






                      also, I'm checking out local gunshop websites. One shop in Livermore has a section on the purchase process of their firearms. It says that you pay the DROS fee which covers a background check. It says that the background check takes 10 days and they hold onto the firearm during that period, so you get it at soonest in 10 days.

                      is this the typical process for firearm shops and retailers? for some reason I always thought you can just go in and do proper paperwork and leave with it on the same day.

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                      • #12
                        lakersandguns
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 5814

                        dont do it. You will never have enough

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                        • #13
                          uhlan1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 6217

                          Originally posted by five.five-six
                          PPT means you meet the seller there, you hand him money, he hands FFL the gun, best part is no sales tax. Just a $35 fee, I buy most all my guns PPT.
                          I as well. State get's enough of my money to squander in their efforts to deprive me of my rights. Also, for handguns, PPT's are exempt from the 1 in 30 days rule. At least as of today.
                          "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                          • #14
                            canopis
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 288

                            Originally posted by DMan8
                            is this the typical process for firearm shops and retailers? for some reason I always thought you can just go in and do proper paperwork and leave with it on the same day.
                            No. Unless you are exempt, there is a mandatory 10-day waiting period for nearly all firearms purchases in California, measured as 10 consecutive 24-hour periods from the date and time the DROS process is started.

                            Check the Wiki for answers: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu..._in_California
                            I am not a lawyer, so my dribbles are not legal advice.

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                            • #15
                              dankthetank
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 718

                              Originally posted by lakersandguns
                              dont do it. You will never have enough
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