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  • diamond digger
    Banned
    • Dec 2012
    • 37

    explain CA difference on AR's

    Can someone explain to me how exactly the AR's and other "assault weapons" sold in California are different than those sold in other states ?

    I have considered buying a Stag Arms AR in California but there is a good chance I will be moving mid nex year.

    If I buy one here then what features do I not get that I would be allowed to have in Utah ?

    I know about magazine size and also the bullet button.
  • #2
    nothinghere2c
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 2259

    thats pretty much it.

    you get a bullet button attached and a gimped low-cap mag. since its a rifle with a non-detachable magazine you can have all the "evil" free-state loving features you want on it.

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    • #3
      Chaos47
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 6615

      Basically now a days for the majority they are no different mechanically or anything like that then rifles in other states. (besides CA compliance devices) (some older ones have welded magazine or other weird things done to them)

      What is different is the configurations.
      They are either fixed magazine or featureless.

      A fixed magazine rifle most commonly has a magazine lock on it like the brand names "bullet button" or "Radlock"

      By the letter of the law these require a tool to remove the magazine and therefore fixed magazine. Fixed magazine rifles can have any and all features such as a pistol grip and flash suppressor.

      Featureless as the name implies do not have any features that are banned:
      Pistol grip.
      Thumbhole stock.
      Folding or telescoping stock.
      Grenade launcher or flare launcher.
      Flash suppressor.
      Forward pistol grip.


      Either type of rifle (most of the time) can usually be changed when out of state to operate just like any other AR or AK, etc

      The term "Assault Weapons" is found in CA law and is outlined as illegally configured firearms. That (amongst the normal disdain for the use of the terms Assault Weapon, Assualt Rifle, AW etc) is why it is frowned upon to use it to describe legal firearms

      See also the flow charts:



      So if you buy a Stag Arms from an FFL in CA pretty much all you do when you move out of state is remove the magazine lock and put in a normal release (super easy)
      Last edited by Chaos47; 12-16-2012, 11:52 PM.

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      • #4
        Sir Stunna Lot
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 845

        long answer short:

        any AR you buy in Cali with a bullet button will be 100% fine in Utah. Once in Utah, just remove the bullet button and add a standard capacity magazine and no one will ever know it was once a Cali AR.
        Hi

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        • #5
          dieselpower
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 11471

          and the magazine lock makes the rifle NOT an assault weapon... thats the point of it. stop using that term its like calling a camaro a "racing car".... Just because it can be configured to race, and has the same body style doesnt mean it can. The same is true for firearms. Sure you can "race" a factory new VW Bug, doesnt mean thats whats its for nor is it any good at it.

          I can "assault" people with a bolt action .22...and the firearm is a weapon ...is a Bolt action .22 an Assault Weapon? NO. The same is true for any AR15 sold in California today to civilians... NONE ARE ASSAULT WEAPONS.

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