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  • 65falconlover
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 64

    Sight/target vision questions

    I'm have a problem that I'm sure many others have and that is that I'm farsighted (It's an age thing ) so being able to see both my sights and my sight picture while aiming is pretty bad. I actually have 20/15 vision (after having lazer surgery several years ago) but need reading glasses for up close work. I've tried wearing them but then I can't see the target well. I do okay but I'd really like a system that gives me both. Other than using a scope on everything I own, including handguns, what other tricks or options are out there?

    Thanks!

    John
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    jrwhitt
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 310

    I've placed one stick on reading glasses lens on my shooting glasses for the aiming eye. (I also had lasik surgery recently and now have 20/15 but need reading glasses.)

    I find that that the one stuck on lens works like if you'd had mono vision correction during the surgery. One eye (the aiming eye) gets to focus close and the other runs normal and the brain is able to switch between them with no problems. I spent a whole Frontsight class with the glasses on and apart from the first 5 mins while the brain got used to it, I never noticed they were there for the rest of the class.

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    • #3
      dieselpower
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 11471

      Look into mico red dots like C-Mores RTS or STS. Trijicon makes a great one called the RMR and there are many others.

      They can be fitted to any firearm. It is better to solve then to adapt. Rather then trying tricks to shoot like you once did, it might be time to solve the problem by taking advantage of the newest ways to aim your firearm.

      Just my 2 cents. I am getting there myself.

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      • #4
        65falconlover
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 64

        Originally posted by jrwhitt
        I've placed one stick on reading glasses lens on my shooting glasses for the aiming eye. (I also had lasik surgery recently and now have 20/15 but need reading glasses.)

        I find that that the one stuck on lens works like if you'd had mono vision correction during the surgery. One eye (the aiming eye) gets to focus close and the other runs normal and the brain is able to switch between them with no problems. I spent a whole Frontsight class with the glasses on and apart from the first 5 mins while the brain got used to it, I never noticed they were there for the rest of the class.
        I may just give that a shot, thanks! I do notice it way more when the lighting isn't great. I was at my local indoor range on Monday and it was really hard to see anything well with their lighting. I guess I should have mentioned it to them but since I'm not a range member or even a "regular" I might have been over-steeping it a bit.


        Originally posted by dieselpower
        Look into mico red dots like C-Mores RTS or STS. Trijicon makes a great one called the RMR and there are many others.

        They can be fitted to any firearm. It is better to solve then to adapt. Rather then trying tricks to shoot like you once did, it might be time to solve the problem by taking advantage of the newest ways to aim your firearm.

        Just my 2 cents. I am getting there myself.
        I should have mentioned that my AR (Colt in .22 cal) has a holographic red dot sight and it works pretty good for me since I'm not really focusing on a sight with a perceived point if that makes any sense. Thanks. I just wasn't sure if this is the best way to go.

        John
        Last edited by 65falconlover; 12-13-2012, 2:10 PM.

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        • #5
          dieselpower
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 11471

          Ya, I think we all have optics on on rifles and BUIS for times when those fail. I was referring to giving up Iron Sights all together. The RMR / STS and RTS replace your Irons all together. There is no reason to suffer through sticking lens on your shooting glasses and goofing with odd gear just to see your irons when the better choice is to remove your Irons and go with optics made for that.

          In many of the pics you see the front sight is still on the handguns, and they are only there to aid in parallax, but are nearly useless otherwise.

          By the end of next year my Glock will be sporting one. Not sure which probably a Trijicon since I want to shed the need for batteries too.

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          • #6
            jrwhitt
            Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 310

            Originally posted by dieselpower
            Look into mico red dots like C-Mores RTS or STS. Trijicon makes a great one called the RMR and there are many others.

            They can be fitted to any firearm. It is better to solve then to adapt. Rather then trying tricks to shoot like you once did, it might be time to solve the problem by taking advantage of the newest ways to aim your firearm.

            Just my 2 cents. I am getting there myself.

            How are these on a carry gun ? Doable or just for home/range type work ?

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            • #7
              dieselpower
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 11471

              Originally posted by jrwhitt
              How are these on a carry gun ? Doable or just for home/range type work ?
              I talked to a guy at the range and he said for a CCW its not a no-go, but takes getting used to. He had the rounded top C-more RTS. Since all have a different shape you have to look into which for what type of carry. He had a Crossbred IWB

              I am planning to modify my holster, but I can't legally CCW in ca so my carry options are limited out the gate.

              I am talking about range and while in the field.

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              • #8
                ausala
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 159

                For me, the best solution was monovision shooting glasses. I wear progressive lenses for normal day to day vision because I need about +2.25 for reading, and when my eyes are uncorrected the front sight is just blurry enough to be a distraction. I'm right-eye-dominant so I had the glasses dispensed with my long distance scrip on the left eye and corrected for front sight distance on the right eye. It's a great solution for me--I adjusted to the setup pretty quickly on my first range trip.

                I had the lenses made for the ESS universal insert (fits behind the safety lens on both ESS and Oakley frames) and use them with the Suppressor frames. I was originally tempted to have a single pair of photochromic shooting glasses made so I could use one pair for both indoor and outdoor, but decided that I'd rather put a less expensive prescription lens behind a sacrificial layer than risk scatching or dinging a more expensive prescription lens. So I got a selection of outer lenses for the Suppressor frame.

                I'm intrigued by the idea of a slide-mounted RMR, but I've been reluctant to shell out the cash to mill one of my slides. Hilton Yam has done some recent posts on his blog about system failures and zeroing issues on an RMR'ed M&P9 (he had three RMRs go down in one pistol class) and while his experience may not be the norm, it's enough to give me pause. Plus, I'm not going to mount an RMR on all of my pistols, and my primary is a Sig P229 that I have been told is a poor choice for milling due to the depth of the slide internals.

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                • #9
                  dieselpower
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11471

                  ^ Everyone goes RMR due to the trijicon name. The guy I met had a C-More, which is known for extreme competition use optics mounted on a Glock 21, and I asked him about failure and he said he has never had one.

                  I didnt realize there was a negative report on RMRs. Sorta like the negative reports on Accupoint scopes. People tend to ignore Trijicons flaws since we are so accustom to them in the military. I hate to say this, but if their other gear isn't as good as the ACOGs...well then its gear to avoid.

                  Any thing bad I have ever heard or read about C-More was from uneducated shooters with a bias. The testing and conclusions never equaled the real world. C-More's have been the #1 choice in competitors from decades for a reason. The big huge C-More slideride was designed to sit on a slide and failures due to recoil are non-existent. I am sure their STS and RTS are the same.

                  I may need to re-think my no battery option and go with what I know to be near recoil proof optics and buy C-More.

                  Thanks for the info.

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