My 2 year old's first M249 SAW

[guns4life]

Teach them young and they will be ok. My father gave me my first rifle at the age 3!

My boy turned two yesterday I might start introducing him as he gets closer to three, thank you for the advice.

I'm just worried he will somehow get his hands on a gun and know how to operate it without understanding the concepts of death and serious injury.



Do you remember how your dad went about it?

[defcon]

im not sure if i should take my pics down now?

[guns4life]

im not sure if i should take my pics down now?

Cause of the belts?

I don't think so.


BTW, how have you gone about teaching your son about safety at such a young age?

I didn't get behind a firearm until I was probably 10 or so, so this is new territory for me.



Thanks!

[defcon]

Cause of the belts?

I don't think so.


BTW, how have you gone about teaching your son about safety at such a young age?

I didn't get behind a firearm until I was probably 10 or so, so this is new territory for me.



Thanks!

yea im worried about the whole belt thing now.

i havent taught him safety yet. he wanted to hang out with me while i was taking pics and figured it would be cool to get some pics of him with the SAW.

i plan on teaching him around 5-6.

[defcon]

had a chat with mike at EBR works about the dummy links.

unfortunately i have to take down the pics

[Freagan]

care to prove that? I was under the impression there was only a "rule" and not a law.... and the "rule" was, " linked AMMUNITION over 10 rds was a LCM" Dummy rounds are not ammunition.

Once again the PA clause rears its ugly head with links too... can you PA a link to not link past 10? No.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=124709

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
magazine.
...
(c) (25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

[BKinzey]

So following the dummy rounds linked together constitutes an ammunition feeding device then if you got wood dowel rods and used them with the links are you still making an amunition feeding device? What if you shape the wood into a dummy round?

I think since the "rounds" were made to be non-functional they aren't considered a feeding device.

The dummy rounds and links being used as a fashion accessory is an excellent example.

On the other hand I wouldn't suggest one link 10 live rounds, a dummy round, then more live rounds. I could certainly see someone being charged and going to court to settle that one.

[dieselpower]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=124709

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
magazine.
...
(c) (25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

Yes I know the law. Now please show me where in that law...or any other law where a fake belt with fake ammo is a LCM.

So my daughters fake magpul 30rd magazine that holds a battery pack is a LCM... really? Just because it uses a real magpul body... really?

[dieselpower]

...and you do realize its impossible to meet (c) (25) with links...even when NOT linked together. Its impossible to PA links. So by your determination any person owning 11 links has a LCM...even if not linked. They are not parts, they are the magazine even when not holding ammo... by your logic.

In any case a DA would need to prove one of these...
manufactures or causes to be
manufactured,
imports into the state,
keeps for sale,
or offers
or
exposes for sale,
or who gives, or lends,

These pics do not prove any of that without the OP confessing to a crime AFTER he has been read his Miranda rights. Just by not saying a word when asked the charges can not be filed.

If after 3 years of the listed crimes no charges have been filed, they can never be filed.

Importation needs to be charged in the Border Jurisdiction where the crime took place.... Ventura has no border so a charge would need a shipping evidense of some kind...unless the importation occurred via boat...

[MXRider]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=124709

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
magazine.
...
(c) (25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

Yeah, go ahead and try taking 100 linked dummy rounds and use them in a rifle. The only way that is a "high capacity" feeding device is if you took it apart and rebuilt it using live ammunition.

I suppose those belt fed nerf guns are illegal too huh?

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[SB1964]

My Dad at 6 or 7 said this is yours (.22) you can have it when your an Adult. Good enough for me, I didnt wait, I bought my own. He did take us Shooting regularly!!!

[morfeeis]

That's awesome! I got my son a Marlin 795 when he was 5. Bought him a Ruger SR22 for christmas this year. He's 7 now.

I'd be willing to bet money that dad is testing them and keeping them warm for him till he's of age......

[tanakasan]

Yeah, go ahead and try taking 100 linked dummy rounds and use them in a rifle. The only way that is a "high capacity" feeding device is if you took it apart and rebuilt it using live ammunition.

I suppose those belt fed nerf guns are illegal too huh?

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Oooh, here in Cali, one never knows for sure!

Robert

[CSACANNONEER]

I've seen these belts and the links and brass have been modified in such a way that the brass can not be de linked using a normal firearm. In other words, these belts can not be used to feed live, blank or dummy ammo into any known firearm.

[BrokerB]

Large capacity maga or feeding device has not one thing to do with what's it holding currently . It was made to hold ammo by original design and purpose .


Doesnt mean squat if you have dummy ammo or using as a pez dispenser


I use 30founders often in a pistol i own as it was purchased before any ban . I have milsurp 7.62 Nat on links also, purchased decades ago. All legal . Too bad i have nothing that uses links also.