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  • Kelster1574
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1053

    Please settle an argument about Iron Sights

    Arguing about how you line up iron sights, pretty stupid but please help settle the argument....

    Place the target directly on top of the front post

    Place the target completely behind front post

    Niether (please explain)

    Thanks
    www.thekelster.com



  • #2
    Deadbolt
    CGSSA Associate
    • Dec 2009
    • 6552

    depends on gun / configuration.

    Both statements are true.
    Just another Boy and His Dog.

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    • #3
      FatalKitty
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2942

      rifle or pistol? what sights?

      AR-15 top of front post.

      XD9mm post over target.

      glock 34 top of front post
      you don't rise to the occasion,
      you just fall back on your level of training.

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      • #4
        the86d
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2011
        • 9587

        Target center mass center of front site is the way I have always done it, and was taught.

        Works well.

        I have seen diagrams of alternatives (just above) but that does not make since, as at different ranges you would have to lift up, above the target, right?

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        • #5
          Mike0904
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 399

          I like to see where the bullet impact "should" be...on top of post, gotta be more precise
          if you can see the point of impact.
          my signature is worthless

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          • #6
            the86d
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2011
            • 9587



            I see your issue. Different sources say different things...

            This is what I have always done:

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19574

              For games, some will use the lolipop hold to give a better sight picture



              So if you shoot at one distance, you can intentionally screw with the elevation so a sight picture at the bottom edge of an NRA target will hit in the bulls eye.

              Again- for games- same target- same distance- same shooting positions.


              For self defense- do I hold on X to hit Y?

              Hold as the above posted shows- top edge of rear sight if ex with top edge of front sight with impact on the same plane
              Last edited by hermosabeach; 11-28-2012, 10:04 AM.
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                russ69
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 9348

                You can shoot a six o'clock hold, a center hold, a gap, or a flat tire. All are acceptable.
                sigpic

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                • #9
                  2shotjoe
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 26582

                  Originally posted by Mike0904
                  I like to see where the bullet impact "should" be...on top of post, gotta be more precise
                  if you can see the point of impact.
                  +1, both of my ar-15's and ak have top of post to be point of impact.
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
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                  Originally posted by Libertarian777
                  ...Don't pick either side....

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                  • #10
                    OldShooter32
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2063

                    Doesn't matter -- just do the same thing every time. A lot depends on your eyes and the target, but consistency is the only trick.
                    "If we make enough laws, we can all be criminals."

                    Walnut media for bright brass
                    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=621214

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                    • #11
                      a1c
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9098

                      RTFM.
                      WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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                      • #12
                        Jeepergeo
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 3506

                        Originally posted by the86d


                        I see your issue. Different sources say different things...

                        This is what I have always done:
                        I like the lower example with the red targets. The upper example is what confuses many. The question with the upper example becomes, "What part of the target sits on top of the front site post, the target circles or the bullseye target circle? I prefer the lower red target examples that show the intended point of impact being the point placed on the top of the front post.
                        Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
                        Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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                        • #13
                          bohoki
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20825

                          i like to see what i shoot which is why i like red dots since i can see how low i hit

                          with the iron sights i often adjust them so i hit high and can tell how high

                          i got the highest rear sight i can get for my glock 21 and i still shoot low i just dont get it at 20 yards if i aim for the heart i hit the nards

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                          • #14
                            9mmepiphany
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 8075

                            I bisect the target with the front sight blade...like in the top picture in the86d's post
                            ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                            • #15
                              postal
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4566

                              Adjustable sites I always go with the top pic of 'The86' as well.

                              If its fixed sights, I'll take a file to that front post and make it that way.

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