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  • Warrior One
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 140

    Fundraiser for Sheriff Stan Sniff

    Join the fundraiser for Sheriff Stan Sniff this Thursday, November 29 2012 Remember he helped us fight SB249.

    Warrior One
    2222 Kansas Ave Ste H
    Riverside Ca 92507

    www.warrioronegunsandammo.com



  • #2
    cindynles
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 2806

    You mean this Sheriff Sniff? The one who won't issue an LTC to a "regular" person unless they have a really good reason? No thanks, I think I will find a candidate for Sheriff who is truly pro gun rights.

    Last edited by cindynles; 11-28-2012, 8:16 AM.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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    • #3
      LCU1670
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2865

      He talked to our gun club a few years ago, very good public speaker, great stories. But, I wish he was easier on the issuing of CCW's. Where I live, I have noticed an increase, big increase, in robberies and car jackings.
      sigpic Waterborne!

      Former: Knight of Front Sight &
      Gold Star Member

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        I know several "regular people" who have obtained a ccw from Riverside County. Good cause isn't all that difficult. Just saying "I want one" or "it's my right" isn't going to do it.
        LASD Retired
        1978-2011

        NRA Life Member
        CRPA Life Member
        NRA Rifle Instructor
        NRA Shotgun Instructor
        NRA Range Safety Officer
        DOJ Certified Instructor

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        • #5
          Spelunker
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 458

          Originally posted by Ron-Solo
          Just saying "I want one" or "it's my right" isn't going to do it.
          It should be! So once again why support him?

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          • #6
            0321jarhead
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 2116

            Contributions of large sums of money and involvement for a sheriff campaign or other law enforcement agency will help you get a CCW. Especially in Contra Costa County.
            "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
            Ronald Reagan

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            • #7
              VMCJ-3
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 618

              Originally posted by Spelunker
              It should be! So once again why support him?
              That's easy. So you don't get a Sandra Hutchens or Lee Baca in the office...
              Then said He unto them...
              "and he that hath no 1911 designed by my servant John Moses Browning,
              let him sell his garment and buy one."
              And they said, "Lord, behold, here are two Glocks."
              And He said unto them, "Meh, it's a good start."

              Luke 22:36-38 (somewhat paraphrased)

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              • #8
                cindynles
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 2806

                Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                I know several "regular people" who have obtained a ccw from Riverside County. Good cause isn't all that difficult. Just saying "I want one" or "it's my right" isn't going to do it.
                I submitted a good cause very similar to several others that have been approved. I even ran it by several of the "right people" on this board before it was submitted. That tells me Sheriff Sniff subscribes to the "some animals are more equal that others" philosophy of LTC.

                Let's also look at Sheriff Sniff's LTC policy as published on the Riverside County Sheriff website:


                Applicants must be able to demonstrate that good cause exists for the issuance of a CCW permit. Good cause is defined as:

                Convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life, or of great bodily harm to the applicant, his/her spouse, or dependent child, which cannot be adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources, and which danger cannot be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be significantly mitigated by the applicant's carrying of a concealed firearm.
                Let's also look at some of the unlawful forms Sheriff Sniff adds to the LTC application packet:
                http://www.riversidesheriff.org/pdf/ccw-rso.pdf Pages 38-40

                How many alcoholic beverages do you consume in an average week?
                Have you ever been arrested, detained, or questioned by the police as an adult or juvenile?
                Are there other crimes you have committed, for which you have not been caught?
                When was the last time you lost control of your temper?
                Is there anything in your background that you are trying to conceal?
                I'm sorry, but Sheriff Sniff is not a friend to the gun community.
                Last edited by cindynles; 11-28-2012, 11:40 AM.
                "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                • #9
                  postal
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4566

                  His policy on CCW is not "ideal", but it's better than many.

                  He wrote a letter against SB249 before anyone else did.

                  I support Sheriff Sniff until someone better comes along. But we can do a lot worse too.

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                  • #10
                    cindynles
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2806

                    Originally posted by postal
                    His policy on CCW is not "ideal", but it's better than many.

                    He wrote a letter against SB249 before anyone else did.

                    I support Sheriff Sniff until someone better comes along. But we can do a lot worse too.
                    San Diego County is actually better than Riverside when it comes to LTC. Riverside has 0.273 Active Civilian Permits per 1000 Adults, while San Diego has 0.302 Active Civilian Permits per 1000 Adults.


                    Sheriff Sniff talks a good game, but when it comes to actually doing something pro gun he falls short. Actions speak louder than words.
                    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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                    • #11
                      postal
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4566

                      You could move a few miles farther south and end up in SD county if you truly think you'd be better off.....

                      In a few months I'll be applying for CCW. I expect it to be approved. But we'll have to see.

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                      • #12
                        postal
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4566

                        You could move a few miles farther south and end up in SD county if you truly think you'd be better off.....

                        In a few months I'll be applying for CCW. I expect it to be approved. But we'll have to see.

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                        • #13
                          sandman21
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1145

                          I know someone who has been shot at had threats made against them. They were told after talking to the CCW have the county you work for provide one, you will not be issued one. All because they leave 100' on the wrong side of a line. I am sure it was because they were saying it was there right. But hey you got yours and good luck everybody else.

                          If anyone goes thank him for the help but people can not defend themselves, that is more important then rifle's. Unless you can already carry then who cares about everyone else

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                          • #14
                            postal
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4566

                            ^^^
                            I have a hard time making sense of your incoherent ramblings. Though I think I get the general idea...

                            Living in 1 county makes you subject to the rule of law of that county. Doesnt matter if you're 100 ft from another county.

                            CCW is under attack by a lot of people in a lot of counties, and a lot of states and at the fed level too.

                            No one in kali is happy with our current ccw laws. Even the lucky people that do have ccw.

                            A few members on this site have done a great deal to further the ccw cause. Gray and Brandon are the 2 that come to mind...

                            Riv co is not a huge priority for them right now, because though it's far from ideal, it isnt as bad as some others.

                            There is also a lot of focus on national reciprocity.

                            So, people are working on this. Working very hard.

                            But instead you want to post some uninteligable whining rant about the people that were issued, and think they dont care about everyone else whose rights are being trampled.

                            That would be the farthest thing from the truth.

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                            • #15
                              cindynles
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2806

                              Originally posted by postal
                              ^^^
                              I have a hard time making sense of your incoherent ramblings. Though I think I get the general idea...

                              Living in 1 county makes you subject to the rule of law of that county. Doesnt matter if you're 100 ft from another county.

                              CCW is under attack by a lot of people in a lot of counties, and a lot of states and at the fed level too.

                              No one in kali is happy with our current ccw laws. Even the lucky people that do have ccw.

                              A few members on this site have done a great deal to further the ccw cause. Gray and Brandon are the 2 that come to mind...

                              Riv co is not a huge priority for them right now, because though it's far from ideal, it isnt as bad as some others.

                              There is also a lot of focus on national reciprocity.

                              So, people are working on this. Working very hard.

                              But instead you want to post some uninteligable whining rant about the people that were issued, and think they dont care about everyone else whose rights are being trampled.

                              That would be the farthest thing from the truth.
                              So then it is up to us, the voters in Riverside County, to hold these politicians accountable (I consider Sheriff to be a political office). Why should we support a politician who says he supports our positions (and asks for money) and then does not follow through.

                              What's the campaign slogan going to be, "Elect me or it could be worse. At least I pretend I'm on your side".

                              I would gladly become a "Gold Sponsor" for a candidate who would actually be pro gun. Let's not reward bad behavior.
                              "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." B.Franklin,1759

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