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  • SacTown
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1784

    Accidental shotgun shell explosion? (video)

    Is this possible? I figured it was a fake but I'm not sure. I know for a fact that ammunition can ignite other than being in a firearm under certain circumstances but falling off a 3 foot table seems pretty ridiculous to me.

    My apologies if this is a dupe, or even a mega dupe. My google + calguns search came up empty.

    Last edited by SacTown; 11-25-2012, 12:25 AM.
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  • #2
    Intimid8tor
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 6607

    All I can say is after whatever it was that popped, two white marks appeared on the wall. I guess if it hit just right it could happen. Perhaps older shells with less stable primers. Don't know. I wouldn't think it would happen, but anything is possible. I had heard stories of kids taping marbles to the primer and attach flags to the other end. Throw them up and the streamer points it straight up but it maintains enough speed to ignite the primer on impact. Never tried it so that is not confirmed by me.
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    • #3
      hermosabeach
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      • Feb 2009
      • 19288

      I would be a one in a million for a primer to go off after dropping 20" onto a floor

      As a kid I saw shells with a marble attached to the primer go off

      I know that video cameras cannot capture the volume of a gun shot or explosion.

      That one seem too quiet and the round that fell off the table was not the round that was shown to the camera.
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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19288

        I would be a one in a million for a primer to go off after dropping 20" onto a floor

        As a kid I saw shells with a marble attached to the primer go off

        I know that video cameras cannot capture the volume of a gun shot or explosion.

        That one seem too quiet and the round that fell off the table was not the round that was shown to the camera.
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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        • #5
          SocomM4
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 2187

          12g No shot, a BB, tape, and a piece of paper wrapped around it to make a thin cone. From what I hear anyway...
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          • #6
            Carsgunsandchics
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 3537

            It looks to be faked. The shell that goes off supposedly is always in his hand and only goes off when his right hand does what looks like snapping something. And he doesn't even drop the one that supposedly goes off. And as for the two "holes" why would the holes be white? They would be darker than the surrounding areas if they were holes, unless he has a light bulb inside the wall.
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            • #7
              Intimid8tor
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2007
              • 6607

              Originally posted by Carsgunsandchics
              And as for the two "holes" why would the holes be white? They would be darker than the surrounding areas if they were holes, unless he has a light bulb inside the wall.
              Not saying it is legit, but if the pellets (or parts of the wad) hit the wall at a shallow angle they could knock some paint off or a shallow hole/tear/mark exposing the sheetrock or primer underneath.

              If it was legit I would think it would be louder and there would be more smoke or particulate matter from the impacts in the air.
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              • #8
                RTE
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1948

                Originally posted by SocomM4
                12g No shot, a BB, tape, and a piece of paper wrapped around it to make a thin cone. From what I hear anyway...

                From what I hear anyway
                bb superglued to the primer/rocket fins glued to the plastic
                what goes up must come down

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                • #9
                  Raider888
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 891

                  FAKE!

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                  • #10
                    Flyin Brian
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3395

                    A live round went off last Saturday at the Big Reno Show when a vendor dropped a plastic baggy of ammo off his table, so yeah it's possible.
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                    • #11
                      lewdogg21
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                      • May 2009
                      • 10369

                      FWIW I've dropped countless shotgun shells and bullets on the floor over the years b/c I was clumsy or trying to carry too much stuff. None have ever gone off.
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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        A friend of mine just touched a primer which was seated proud and had the round go off in his hand. This happened at a match with plenty of credible witnesses. Currently he is a member of the NRA BOD. So, while I did not witness it, I know it happened. Falling 3' is definately viable.
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                        • #13
                          LMTluvr
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                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1348

                          Originally posted by Carsgunsandchics
                          It looks to be faked. The shell that goes off supposedly is always in his hand and only goes off when his right hand does what looks like snapping something. And he doesn't even drop the one that supposedly goes off. And as for the two "holes" why would the holes be white? They would be darker than the surrounding areas if they were holes, unless he has a light bulb inside the wall.
                          Did you watch the same video?
                          This looks to be anything but faked.
                          You can clearly see him lining up the hulls in a row. While adding to the row of hulls he bumps the line, last hull in the line starts to roll off the table( at 0:09 seconds in to the video). You then clearly see the hull roll off the backside of the table and ignite. It has nothing to do with the round in his hand at anytime. In the video his hand never touches the round in question.Also noting you can see the crap rip a couple small gouges in the paint thus exposing the WHITE sheetrock and the guy pretty clearly darn near soil his pants.
                          Last edited by LMTluvr; 11-24-2012, 8:01 AM.
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                          • #14
                            LMTluvr
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1348

                            Originally posted by Raider888
                            FAKE!
                            You're attention to detail is fake. Seriously.
                            Last edited by LMTluvr; 11-24-2012, 7:55 AM.
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                            • #15
                              LMTluvr
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1348

                              Originally posted by Intimid8tor
                              Not saying it is legit, but if the pellets (or parts of the wad) hit the wall at a shallow angle they could knock some paint off or a shallow hole/tear/mark exposing the sheetrock or primer underneath.

                              If it was legit I would think it would be louder and there would be more smoke or particulate matter from the impacts in the air.
                              That looks to be exactly what happened.
                              Most modern shotgun shells have smokeless powders so the lack thereof doesn't surprise me, but at 0:27 they do a repeat in slow motion and you can clearly see the flame and particulate you're talking about. You can also see the load destroy all the crap on the table in the corner.
                              I don't understand how this is even questionable. If it is a fake they did a fantastic job.
                              As far as primers detonating after being dropped, how is that even considered unlikely? Just by the nature of their design I would imagine them to be somewhat shock sensitive. Then noting the possibility that perhaps this primer or lot of primers were in a sense " bad" but made it past qc inspectors. I could see how that may be possible.
                              Last edited by LMTluvr; 11-24-2012, 8:03 AM.
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