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  • steelrain82
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3683

    gun safe/lock question.

    So I bought my first lower from Turners the other day and was told I needed to buy a gun lock or have proof of a safe. Its a stripped lower for heavens sake! Do I really need either one to pick up a receiver. The guy wouldnt let me buy without a lock so I said I have a safe, which I do, but it turns out its not doj approved. So freaking riduculous.
  • #2
    readysetgo
    CGSSA Coordinator
    • Aug 2011
    • 8689

    You'll need a lock or affidavit.

    See here for more info and link to the affidavit.
    As of January 1, 2002, no firearm may be sold, transferred, or manufactured within California unless that firearm is accompanied by a DOJ-approved firearms safety device (California Penal Code section 23620, et seq).


    Affidavit here: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd...rms/gsaff.pdf?

    Read that and see if your safe meets the definition. You'll note that the safe doesn't necessarily have to be "DOJ approved".
    Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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    • #3
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44653

      Yes, you need a lock (or, for a long gun, a safe).

      See also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Don't blame Turners. It is the law.
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        • #5
          steelrain82
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 3683

          No I dont blame turners. I know its the stupid law. It just amazed me thst I needed a lock for a stripped lower receiver. But I got one for free this morning. Safe that is. And it's on the list so im all good now. The only thing I was a little bit in shock about was how I couldnt even purchase w/o a lock or safe. Ive only had get a lock after a purchase. But whatever, I have a safe now so it null and voids that problem.

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          • #6
            Librarian
            Admin and Poltergeist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44653

            Originally posted by steelrain82
            The only thing I was a little bit in shock about was how I couldnt even purchase w/o a lock or safe. Ive only had get a lock after a purchase. But whatever, I have a safe now so it null and voids that problem.
            It's been the law in CA since 2000.

            Safe does not help for handguns - BATFE has not figured out how to accept them. They've only had seven years to work on it ...
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            • #7
              steelrain82
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 3683

              Sorry, ive been typing this thread from a phone. I know the law but usually I was able to purchase and then when I pick up I would need to get a lock. I was suprised because the guy wouldnt even let me order w/o buying a lock first. Other than that part, I had no problem with turners period. I got a good lower for cheap, and ive bought a good amount of ammo. I was hesitant about them after all the bad mouthing I hear about them, but so far nothing but great service.

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              • #8
                myk
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 5955

                ................No one's made ME buy any locks or prove that I have a safe....


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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44653

                  Originally posted by myk
                  ................No one's made ME buy any locks or prove that I have a safe....
                  That's pretty odd.

                  A CA FFL can undergo a DOJ audit; a firearm delivered, without proof a 'safety device' was also delivered with it (or the law was otherwise satisfied) could cost that dealer his/her license. They're usually pretty paranoid about such things.
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                  • #10
                    uhlan1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 6217

                    Originally posted by myk
                    ................No one's made ME buy any locks or prove that I have a safe....

                    Really? Were they brand new and came with a lock maybe? I've had to do a safe affidavit for each gun I've bought PPT. can't remember on the new ones to be honest. not sure what the op meant by proof of a safe. I just write down make and model, sign and off I go. Never had to prove I have one.
                    "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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