need unique transfer help

[c-wick]

i did the search thing for a while and couldnt find anything like this (non family transfer) so here goes:

i have the opportunity to buy some firearms from a lady whose husband is now deceased. Most of these guns are very old handguns/revolvers (not sure on dates yet). These guns were registered to the husband, but the widow wants them gone.
If i want to buy say 5-6 of them and they are registered in his name, what is the process of obtaining these from the widow? do they need to be transfered to her first then myself? im assuming an FFL is needed since this is technically PPT?

this is NOT an intrafamiliar transfer

[Librarian]

Yes, FFL is needed; PPT is the mechanism, so Roster does not apply.

Wife probably became the legal owner by inheritance; should have filed an OPLAW form, but that's not a problem for you.

She can just sell them to you.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Is an FFL still needed under CA law if the handgun is an antique (pre-1899)?

[Librarian]

Is an FFL still needed under CA law if the handgun is an antique (pre-1899)?

No.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Antique_Firearms

[c-wick]

Yes, FFL is needed; PPT is the mechanism, so Roster does not apply.

Wife probably became the legal owner by inheritance; should have filed an OPLAW form, but that's not a problem for you.

She can just sell them to you.

question on this; if the wife did not file the OPLAW forms for these firearms, her name will not show as registered owner. will the DROS be delayed/rejected because of this? i can just see the LGS saying "no you can't sell those ma'am, you are not the legal owner"

[Librarian]

question on this; if the wife did not file the OPLAW forms for these firearms, her name will not show as registered owner. will the DROS be delayed/rejected because of this? i can just see the LGS saying "no you can't sell those ma'am, you are not the legal owner"

No, no problem. Lots of unregistered guns in CA, perfectly legal. Because that's true, nobody checks ownership, but DOJ does check to see if a handgun might have been reported stolen (again, I expect that is not an issue here).

Since transfer through a CA FFL began to be required in 1991, and people moving here with guns were required to register in 1998, the youngest one could have been to own an unregistered handgun was born in 1997 (given a gun as an infant, moved here just before 1998).

So, if the laws stay as they are, and figuring a 100 year lifetime, an unregistered handgun might possibly become an issue around 2098.

Long gun registration starts in 2014; unregistered long guns therefore might become 'interesting' in 2115 or so.

See the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Firearms_registration

[Bikertrash]

A friend of mine did the same thing. When the husband died all his possessions became his wifes since there was no will. She sold some handguns to my friend. FFL had to do a separate DROS for each handgun. 10 days later he picked them up with no issues.

[c-wick]

sweet. great info guys. greatly appreciate it!