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  • Duzell
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 16

    mosin nagat question

    i have a mosin 91/30 that is stock, i dont hunt, and i only go to a gun range to use it.

    i was watching on youtube that someone expanded out their mosins magazine to be 10 rounds instead of the regular 5.

    he is offering to sell the parts and i bring to gunsmith and have modified.

    i do not want to do this if it is illegal in CA , but as mosin is a bolt action, a historic rifle and mine is at least 80 yrs old , i have searched the firearms regulations but im LOST on what is ok to do to a mosin.

    Note: please dont wine at me about modding the rifle, and keeingp it historic, i dont want to hear it.


    thank you for your help in this mattter
  • #2
    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    It would not be illegal to fit a mag that holds 10 rounds. It is a bolt action so doesn't have the worries that semi autos do.

    Note: please dont wine at me about modding the rifle, and keeingp it historic, i dont want to hear it.
    Ok. It would be the silliest thing you ever did, however. I do have the spelling and grammar police on speed dial btw..........be warned.
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    • #3
      joemama
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 2333

      Originally posted by paul0660
      It would not be illegal to fit a mag that holds 10 rounds. It is a bolt action so doesn't have the worries that semi autos do.



      Ok. It would be the silliest thing you ever did, however. I do have the spelling and grammar police on speed dial btw..........be warned.
      I would say you were right if mosins were in the $800 range and much much rarer, but modding a surplus sub $100 rifle so it fits your needs better imo is not a silly thing to do.


      I also don't believe its illegal to modify it to that size. Its not over 10 rounds but I'm not even sure if that counts as a "magazine".

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      • #4
        paul0660
        In Memoriam
        • Jul 2007
        • 15669

        Oh, it is silly, and he knows it. That is why he said not to bug him about it.
        *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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        • #5
          Flintlock Tom
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 3353

          Ten rounds? No legal issue!
          In fact there is a member here making 10 round mags for the MN. And...

          they will be available in TWO WEEKS!

          MN 10 round mag
          Last edited by Flintlock Tom; 10-31-2012, 1:31 PM.
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          • #6
            Beetle Bailey
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 2620

            Yes it is legal to do, but it might not be as useful as you think. Were I to decide to drop money into sporterizing an M91/30, the first thing I'd want to do something about is the trigger.
            "All bad precedents began as justifiable measures." Julius Caesar

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            • #7
              Burbur
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1258

              and don't feel bad about bubba'ing a 91/30.

              If you want to preserve the history, go buy another one for $99 after Thanksgiving.

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              • #8
                mosinnagantm9130
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2009
                • 8782

                Originally posted by joemama
                I would say you were right if mosins were in the $800 range and much much rarer, but modding a surplus sub $100 rifle so it fits your needs better imo is not a silly thing to do.
                You know why you see so many sported m1903 Springfields, M1917s, Arisakas, K98s, and other milsurps?

                People always assume the supply will never run out, and they will never be worth anything.

                I've seen many rare or otherwise desirable milsurps bubba'd all to hell because the owner didn't do their research. Granted, the OPs rifle probably isn't rare, but the "it's only $100" argument is an ignorant one.
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                • #9
                  Duzell
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 16

                  Well I thank those who didn't judge. To those who still did, please shove it. I'm not into troller's, anyway that is good to hear that it's legit. My reason for sporting is to improve my accuracy as well as give me advantages I need.the Modding of the storage is an idea I'm playing around with for my next mosin project. My main mosin 91/30 is stock and does 1-2 inch groups at 100-200 yrds on irons, the 200-400 is about 2.5-3.5 groups. This mosin project is easy swapping betweenstandard and sport mode. It's easy to do. Get stock from Boyd's,brass Stacker mount,scout scope and tadah it's a easy sporter with a .5 group tightening. and is interchangeable between two gun styles. I actually like the standard stock best but my thumb hole is comfy. I also use it to shoot at night.my plan with the irons is to keep them unlike other people, Thus using brass Stacker I can still use irons.it's easy to take scope off as well and hasn't broke yet. I dont beilve in telling people what they cant and can do with their own rifle, its there's not yours, so keep yours however you want, but either help or be silent, as all your doing is getting off topic and being a hindrance to the poster who is asking a legitimate question that they need assistance on.
                  Last edited by Duzell; 11-01-2012, 12:28 PM.

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                  • #10
                    joemama
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2333

                    Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
                    You know why you see so many sported m1903 Springfields, M1917s, Arisakas, K98s, and other milsurps?

                    People always assume the supply will never run out, and they will never be worth anything.

                    I've seen many rare or otherwise desirable milsurps bubba'd all to hell because the owner didn't do their research. Granted, the OPs rifle probably isn't rare, but the "it's only $100" argument is an ignorant one.
                    I'm pretty sure people will stop feeling the need to "bubba" them when they actually become valuable like the guns you listed. Its certainly not gonna happen over night unless the whole mosin stockpile in the world are kept in a barn somewhere and it burns down. People bubba them because they are a cheap way to make a rifle that fits them. I doubt people will do it when they do get rarer and cost a lot more.

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                    • #11
                      baih777
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5680

                      Check out midway. I think they have trigger kits for them and muzzle brakes.
                      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                      I'm Back.

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                      • #12
                        MalC
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 432

                        You don't need to buy a trigger kit, just take it apart and polish the right spots on the sear. A little elbow grease can go a looong way with a 91/30

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                        • #13
                          Peter.Steele
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7351

                          Originally posted by Duzell
                          Well I thank those who didn't judge. To those who still did, please shove it.

                          (a) Bubba is wrong, and I'll judge him however I please.

                          (b) None of what you're talking about doing seems to be irreversibly damaging the rifle, so you don't - so far - appear to Bubba. No harm, no foul. So far.


                          I'm not into troller's,
                          Bubba is a troll. I'm just an irritable jerk.

                          brass Stacker mount,scout scope

                          Skip the scout scope. Get an extra bolt body with a bent handle - I recommend Accumounts, personally - and then get a JMECKS scope mount. You'll be able to use normal scopes, none of that long eye relief s**t. JMECKS mounts seem to have a great reputation. I've never heard any complaints about them, at least.



                          my plan with the irons is to keep them unlike other people, Thus using brass Stacker I can still use irons.
                          JMECKS has a see-through mount.


                          it's easy to take scope off as well and hasn't broke yet.
                          If it's easy to take off, then it's also generally not too hard to make it fall off.


                          I dont beilve in telling people what they cant and can do with their own rifle, its there's not yours, so keep yours however you want, but either help or be silent, as all your doing is getting off topic and being a hindrance to the poster who is asking a legitimate question that they need assistance on.

                          You've got your definition of troll, I have mine.
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                          • #14
                            morfeeis
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 7605

                            Originally posted by joemama
                            I would say you were right if mosins were in the $800 range and much much rarer, but modding a surplus sub $100 rifle so it fits your needs better imo is not a silly thing to do.


                            I also don't believe its illegal to modify it to that size. Its not over 10 rounds but I'm not even sure if that counts as a "magazine".
                            Plus there are like 30 million that were made, i don't think we'll ever run out. that's like saying, " no don't mod that AK, it's a classic".
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                            • #15
                              demioracer
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 25

                              Post a pic when you're done with mod, looking forward to it!
                              Shotty too Hottie

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