RAW and BB AR transport.

[mike_the_wino]

At the range today I got to chatting with a guy and his son next to me. As I am packing up I break bench rest betty in two so she fits in the case and the son says to his dad, 'see, that's one way to safely transport'. So I ask what they are talking about and was informed that you need to a) break the gun down, b) insert a magblock/ empty 10 rndr, or face being cited for 'having AR that could accept a 30 round (high cap) magazine. Is this true or FUD? I normally just throw the BB ARs in the case sans empty magazine but in a locked case.

To make matters more complicated I also had a RAW AR with 30 round magazines. If I didn't have the RAW would that change things?

Funny thing though, dad said '30 round clip' once or twice until his teenage son called him on it.

And yes, I know the 30 rounders don't go in anything but the RAW.

[mif_slim]

And yes, I know the 30 rounders don't go in anything but the RAW.

Or featureless

[Chaos47]

It is said that it is best to have an empty 10 round magazine in a fixed magazine rifle when transporting. Breaking it down really doesn't do anything.

There is no "possessive construction" when it comes to having a magazine locked rifle and large capacity magazines near it. If you only had large capacity magazines and no under 10 round magazines or a rifle that could legally use large capacity magazines it would be highly suspect though...

By law RAW's must be locked up when transported.

[mike_the_wino]

Or featureless

DAMMIT! Always forgets about the featureless.

Any help/ advice on the transport question? Dude also said he personally knew a couple of guys that got jammed up with a BB AR but no mag block/ empty 10 rndr.

Ah, Chaos snuck in with the answer. Thank you.

[baih777]

RAW is suppose to be transported in a locked container. Hard case. BB soft case is ok.

[dieselpower]

I say clip to piss people off...LOL

There are laws governing the transport of an AW.

A firearm with a magazine locking device LACKS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE. The firearm doesn't need a magazine inserted.

To insert a 30rd magazine into the magazine well is against the law since you are manufacturing an AW. You could also remove the disconnector and manufacture a machine gun...the point is moot.

[rickster1269]

RAW is suppose to be transported in a locked container. Hard case. BB soft case is ok.

These laws are freaking retarded, seriously..

[dieselpower]

These laws are freaking retarded, seriously..

next year all longguns need to be transported as a AW is now.

[DiscoBayJoe]

RAW is suppose to be transported in a locked container. Hard case. BB soft case is ok.

Can you please show me in the law where a hard case is required?

[dieselpower]

no hard shell required...that's a TSA requirement for checking firearms while flying.

AW transport has to be done as per this...and all firearms will require this soon.

12026.1. (a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that the following applies to the firearm:

(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment.

(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm, the firearm is contained within a locked container.

(b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in accordance with this chapter.

(c) As used in this section, “locked container” means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device.

[mike_the_wino]

These laws are freaking retarded, seriously..

No doubt. If I could, I would move. Alas, not chance of that happening unless some miracle occurs.

[saki302]

Yep- locked container includes trunk. A locked soft case will do for a RAW also.

Just treat them as if they were pistols when transporting.

-Dave

[baih777]

Can you please show me in the law where a hard case is required?

i called the NRA lawyer for legal advise because i got conflicting answers.

this is also true.
Yep- locked container includes trunk. A locked soft case will do for a RAW also.

Just treat them as if they were pistols when transporting.

-Dave

[dieselpower]

i called the NRA lawyer for legal advise because i got conflicting answers.

this is also true.
Yep- locked container includes trunk. A locked soft case will do for a RAW also.

Just treat them as if they were pistols when transporting.

-Dave

I posted the actual law...how did that not answer the question?

[baih777]

I posted the actual law...how did that not answer the question?

my bad