Open bolt legality question

[cannon]

Just double checking my flow chart reading.

Is an open bolt Cobrey pistol legal in California?

[tuolumnejim]

It's the Fed's that don't like that. More at the link.

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-82-8.pdf

27 C.F.R. 179.11: MEANING OF TERMS
The SM10 and SM11A1 pistols and SAC carbines are machineguns as defined in the
National Firearms Act.
ATF Rul. 82-8
[Status of ruling: Active]
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has reexamined firearms identified as SM10
pistols, SM11A1 pistols, and SAC carbines. The SM10 is a 9 millimeter or .45ACP caliber,
semiautomatic firearm; the SM11A1 is a .380ACP caliber, semiautomatic firearm; and the SAC
carbine is a 9 millimeter or .45ACP caliber, semiautomatic firearm. The weapons are blowback
operated, fire from the open bolt position with the bolt incorporating a fixed firing pin, and the
barrels of the pistols are threaded to accept a silencer. In addition, component parts of the
weapons are a disconnector and a trip which prevent more than one shot being fired with a single
function of the trigger.

[AJAX22]

There were no open bolt cobray pistols
They were RPB

And the sapm10 is Ca legal if the threaded barrel is unthreaded

[Quiet]

There were no open bolt cobray pistols
They were RPB

And the sapm10 is Ca legal if the threaded barrel is unthreaded

What he said.


As long as it does not have a prohibited feature (threaded barrel) and is not make/model banned, then it would be CA legal.

Under Federal laws/regulations...
Open bolt firearms made after 1982 are considered MGs.
So, make sure that particular firearm was made before 1982.

[cannon]

Is the SAP M10 a "loophole" type gun. Like the AR-15 M4 situation?

I notice it is an RPB manufacture and the SAP looks to be done with different dies than the rest of the gun.