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  • mxadam579
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 895

    goin to CANADA

    HEADED TO YELLOWSTONE on a vacation and wanna go to canada for a day or 2 anybody know what i have to bring to bring my pistol in with me thanks
  • #2
    Chaos47
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 6615

    Generally no go on pistols.



    * You cannot import prohibited firearms. Fully automatic weapons, all hand guns and guns of less than 66 cm (26 inches) in length are prohibited by law.

    * Restricted firearms such as pistols or revolvers may be temporarily imported if you have an Authorization to Transport (ATT) in advance from a Canadian Chief Firearms Officer.
    btw that took like 3 seconds to find on google...


    Edit:
    Digging deeper..


    It appears that you need to fill out these forms and pay $25 CAN.

    The Non-Resident Firearms Declaration (Form CAFC 909 EF), and its continuation sheet (Form CAFC 910 EF) must be presented in triplicate, unsigned, to a customs officer at your first point of entry into Canada.

    Plus you have to have an Authorization to Transport (ATT) which can be Short-term ATTs valid for a single trip or long-term ATTs valid for 5 years.
    To get a ATT you have to have a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possess...sition_Licence
    To get a PAL you have to fill this out



    On top of that some handguns are restricted and some are prohibited.
    So all and all this appears to be a very long process. Probably not worth it for one trip imo...
    Last edited by Chaos47; 10-04-2012, 4:30 PM.

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    • #3
      -hanko
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2002
      • 14174

      Originally posted by mxadam579
      HEADED TO YELLOWSTONE on a vacation and wanna go to canada for a day or 2 anybody know what i have to bring to bring my pistol in with me thanks
      DO NOT even think about it, you might be able to leave the weapon at a local gun store near the border, but the Canadians are bizarrely paranoid about guns in general, and handguns in particular.

      Personally, I'd skip Canada and take the day or 2 in Glacier.

      Main Street Cafe in Kalispell has Pilsner Urquel (sp?) on draft.

      Travel safe & enjoy the beauty.

      -hanko
      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

      A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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      • #4
        InGrAM
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 3699

        So are "certain types" of long guns good to go without "informing" anyone or filing paper work?

        Such as a pump shot gun, or bolt gun?

        Yes, I am being lazy but I am curious.
        Last edited by InGrAM; 10-04-2012, 5:30 PM.

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        • #5
          2shotjoe
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2011
          • 26613

          Why? Nothing but Canadians there.
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
          Originally posted by Libertarian777
          ...Don't pick either side....

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          • #6
            Ford8N
            Banned
            • Sep 2002
            • 6129

            DO NOT TAKE A HANDGUN TO CANADA. They will confiscate it at the border. They are really paranoid about handguns.

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              Originally posted by InGrAM
              So are "certain types" of long guns good to go without "informing" anyone or filing paper work?

              Such as a pump shot gun, or bolt gun?

              Yes, I am being lazy but I am curious.
              No.

              All firearms and ammunition must be declared.
              There's a form you fill out and a fee to pay.

              Canada classifies firearms into three categories.
              1. Non-restricted
              2. Restricted
              3. Prohibited

              Non-restricted = non-semi-auto shotgun/rifle with a barrel length greater than 18.5".
              Restricted = handgun with a barrel length greater than 4.1", semi-auto shotgun/rifle with a barrel length between 18"-18.5", a rifle/shotgun with an overall length less than 26" (measure with the firearm in the shortest possible firing position) and any make/model listed firearm.

              You can only import a non-restricted firearm (can be declared at the border, but they want you to come prepared with paperwork already filed out) or a restricted firearm (need authorization number from the RCMP, therefore need prior approval before arriving at the border).
              You can only import a maximum of 5000 total rounds of ammo.

              If you want to borrow a firearm while you are in Canada, there's another form to fill out and a fee to pay.

              Canada also has a magazine ban.
              You can not legally import/possess handgun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
              You can not legally import/possess rifle & shotgun magazines that hold more than 5 rounds.
              Last edited by Quiet; 10-04-2012, 7:49 PM.
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              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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              • #8
                smle-man
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2007
                • 10593

                You need to declare any firearms to take out of the U.S. with U.S. customs so that you may bring them back in again. Way back in the 70s when I took some firearms overseas I took them to the Federal building in Pittsburgh where I lived, up the elevator to the U.S. customs office. showed them the rifles and handgun, got the forms completed, back down the elevator, and back through the lobby past the FBI office and ATF. Imagine doing that today without having a six alarm response!

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                • #9
                  dwtt
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7470

                  Originally posted by smle-man
                  You need to declare any firearms to take out of the U.S. with U.S. customs so that you may bring them back in again. Way back in the 70s when I took some firearms overseas I took them to the Federal building in Pittsburgh where I lived, up the elevator to the U.S. customs office. showed them the rifles and handgun, got the forms completed, back down the elevator, and back through the lobby past the FBI office and ATF. Imagine doing that today without having a six alarm response!
                  The form is a CBP Form 4457, and the place to have it signed is at the US Customs office at your nearest international airport. Bring the form and your pistol to the office at the airport and have them verify the serial number and model with what you wrote in the form. They will stamp and sign it. You can also bring 1000 rounds of ammunition with you without having to apply for an export permit if you use it for personal use. It's referenced in ITAR 123.17 (e)

                  A more important question already asked here is why Canada? You'll waste a day driving from Yellowstone to the Canada border, then all you'll see there are Canadians. Montana and Wyoming offer so much more than Saskatchewa. I rode my motorcycle through Wyoming back in the early 1990's when I was in grad school and it was a trip I'll never forget. I'm sure you'll also enjoy Yellowstone park, so why ruin it by wasting time in Canada? OP, are you on drugs?

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                  • #10
                    mxadam579
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 895

                    yup gonna stay south or the canada border aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thanks guys

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                    • #11
                      biglou
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1317

                      My neighbor went moose hunting in Canada. Had all the proper paperwork. He's a Sgt with a police department in the bay area. They still got held up at the border for 5 hours while they verified all their paperwork. They had their hunting rifles, no handguns.

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                      • #12
                        glockman19
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 10486

                        leave the firearms here in the US.

                        If you are going to Canada you might want to visit a Canadian bank and pick up some 24k gold Maple Leafs at spot price with NO markup.

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