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  • Merz
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 104

    Question on PPT and shipping

    So I gave my buddy an AR15 lower. I live in the Sacramento area and he lives in Morgan Hill. He gave me an FFL of his choices info, I called them and set up for me to send them my lower to PPT it to my buddy.

    In the past I have shipped rifles and pistols to FFLs. Rifles and lower have gone USPS and handguns have gone FEDEX or UPS 2nd day air. This time I sent the lower USPS.

    Also as me being a private party not an FFL, usually when I ship to an FFL all I usually have to send is a copy of my DL.

    There was a misunderstanding a the FFL though that I was a FFL holder also. So he was expecting my FFL paperwork with the lower.

    First he tells me I did wrong by sending the lower USPS, with which I respond with this:


    Then he tells me that I am suppose to send FFL paperwork or notify the DOJ that I sent the lower to him. I have never heard of this before. I looked on the DOJ website and see nothing of the sort.

    I am not saying the FFL is wrong, I just want to make sure that I am not in the wrong. I have been searching to find info on the DOJ website and on here, but the search results are vague. Any insight especially with links would be much appreciated.

    As of right now, looks like I am driving down south to do the transfer in person. They also want two proofs of id for the "seller" in a PPT.
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    Librarian
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    • Oct 2005
    • 44626

    If you do NOT drive down it will not be a CA PPT; both parties must appear at the same FFL (usually together, but that's not required).

    Sounds like a call to the FFL in MH before shipping would have been useful.

    But USPS for something not a handgun is fine for us mortals.
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    • #3
      Merz
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 104

      Originally posted by Librarian
      If you do NOT drive down it will not be a CA PPT; both parties must appear at the same FFL (usually together, but that's not required).

      Sounds like a call to the FFL in MH before shipping would have been useful.

      But USPS for something not a handgun is fine for us mortals.

      Thanks for the info, I did make a call to the FFL before I sent the lower down, he says he assumed I was a FFL. So the times I have sent a fire arm to a FFL and they have transferred it to another private party, what has happened? Did the FFL assume ownership of the item and then transfer it to a private party?

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Originally posted by Merz
        So the times I have sent a fire arm to a FFL and they have transferred it to another private party, what has happened? Did the FFL assume ownership of the item and then transfer it to a private party?
        It was done as a regular (non-PPT) transfer.
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