"Not legal in California".

[GWbiker]

...that reads the white sticker afixed to the large box containing my new Springfield Armory XDs .45acp that I recently bought in Tucson.

A standout small handgun in .45acp. Straight out of the box and after a thorough clean and lube, not one hiccup in 60 rounds of FMJ and JHP.

I don't know why the XDs is not for California... Gun already has a grip safety, Glock type trigger and a chamber indicator.

However, could the answer be......Springfield refuses to pay extortion fees to sleezeball politicians in Sacramento?

[ke6guj]

I don't know why the XDs is not for California... Gun already has a grip safety, Glock type trigger and a chamber indicator.

However, could the answer be......Springfield refuses to pay extortion fees to sleezeball politicians in Sacramento?

but does it have a magazine disconnect as well? If not, then it would not be able to added to the roster as a new model.

That is hte same reason the XDm is not on the roster.

[drifter2be]

Aside from the magazine disconnect, does the LCI have the idiot proof labeling and bright red paint on it or is it like the LCI on the standard XD which is all black. Makes a difference for CA.

[njineermike]

It doesn't have the California-approved safety trigger. It's the one that prevents movement of the firing pin when there's a round in the chamber or magazine.

[TKM]

If you check the roster you will see that Springfield cheerfully pays the tax maggots in Sacramento.

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp

[Quiet]

The Springfield Armory XDS does not have a "magazine disconnect mechanism" [PC 16900] and a "chamber load indicator" [PC 16380].

Both of which are a requirement for semi-auto pistols to be eligible for testing after 01-01-2007. [PC 31910(b)(5)]

Also, note that a "chamber load indicator" is different than a loaded chamber indicator and that the majority of loaded chamber indicators do not meet the definition of a "chamber load indicator".



Penal Code 16380
As used in this part, "chamber load indicator" means a device that plainly indicates that a cartridge is in the firing chamber. A device satisfies this definition if it is readily visible, has incorporated or adjacent explanatory text or graphics, or both, and is designed and intended to indicate to a reasonably foreseeable adult user of the pistol, without requiring the user to refer to a user's manual or any other resource other than the pistol itself, whether a cartridge is in the firing chamber.

Penal Code 16900
As used in this part, "magazine disconnect mechanism" means a mechanism that prevents a semiautomatic pistol that has a detachable magazine from operating to strike the primer of ammunition in the firing chamber when a detachable magazine is not inserted in the semiautomatic pistol.

Penal Code 31910
As used in this part, "unsafe handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, for which any of the following is true:
(b) For a pistol:
(5) Commencing January 1, 2007, for all center fire semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 32015, it does not have both a chamber load indicator and if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism.

[IrishPirate]

GOOD FOR SPRINGFIELD!!! Clearly they are sending a message to the gun community that they aren't going to be pushed around by politicians.

[morfeeis]

It's not that it's not legal in California, it's that it's not legal for a dealer to sell in CA. We could PPT those puppies all day.

[GWbiker]

OK. The XDs doesn't have a magazine safety and the loaded chamber indicator isn't painted and with an engraved message..................But, I noticed on the California handgun approved list, Colt .45acp is approved for sale and I've never seen first hand a Colt .45acp with that mentioned safety garbage.

So, what gives?

Does anyone in Sacramento politics really know anything about firearms?

[ke6guj]

OK. The XDs doesn't have a magazine safety and the loaded chamber indicator isn't painted and with an engraved message..................But, I noticed on the California handgun approved list, Colt .45acp is approved for sale and I've never seen first hand a Colt .45acp with that mentioned safety garbage.

So, what gives?

Does anyone in Sacramento politics really know anything about firearms?

what gives is that many handguns were added to the list before the additional requirements were added. so, many 1911's, glocks, and the XD were added to the roster in the early days. Since then, the requirements to be added to the roster have been increased, but those already on the list can stay (grandfathered in). With the new XDm and XDs, they came out after the new requirements for mag disconnects and LCIs. Therefore, they can't go on the roster, even though a similar XD can stay on the roster.