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  • doc66
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 551

    Shooting drills at the range

    Need some advice on shooting drills at an indoor or outdoor range. All static paper targets with the one sec between each round are the rules. What drills can I do to practice hd/sd scenarios? No holster or tactical reloading practice is allowed either. Anything else I can do to practice while shooting at the paper crazy clown, bad guy, silhouette targets?
  • #2
    SanPedroShooter
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2010
    • 9732

    BLM land. There should be plenty in your area.

    Call the BLM as ask them.

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    • #3
      dieselpower
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 11471

      Originally posted by doc66
      Need some advice on shooting drills at an indoor or outdoor range. All static paper targets with the one sec between each round are the rules. What drills can I do to practice hd/sd scenarios? No holster or tactical reloading practice is allowed either. Anything else I can do to practice while shooting at the paper crazy clown, bad guy, silhouette targets?
      Only one I can think of right now is the head shot hostage one. The trick is to NOT announce or telegraph you are about to fire the weapon. If a hostage taker thinks you are about to fire, he will move or force the situation and you will lose aim.

      Signs you are about to fire...closing one eye and "aiming" the weapon, or placing your finger on the trigger. Your finger needs to already be on the trigger, you should train to fire mid-sentence or fire while the hostage taker is talking and never close one eye to aim.

      The first shot needs to go higher than the forehead, no lower than the nose, and no farther left or right then the center of the eye. 10 to 20 feet.

      the sweet spot is 1 inch above the left eye, slightly center, but not dead center over the nose.

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      While many will say damage to the left side of the brain may make a right hand contract (pulling the trigger), it's been said that the damage to the control portion of the brain would stop that "pulse" from ever leaving.
      In any case you are firing the shot the second the hostage takers firearm is not pointed at the hostage.

      Have a buddy SOFTLY say, "now" and that should indicate the firearm has been lowered by the criminal...so fire the single shot.

      The basic drill is to talk to the criminal, give commands or negotiate with them, then fire. This is not LEO training... this is civilian stuff...
      Last edited by dieselpower; 09-23-2012, 12:04 PM.

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      • #4
        doc66
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 551

        Originally posted by dieselpower
        Only one I can think of right now is the head shot hostage one. The trick is to NOT announce or telegraph you are about to fire the weapon. If a hostage taker thinks you are about to fire, he will move or force the situation and you will lose aim.

        Signs you are about to fire...closing one eye and "aiming" the weapon, or placing your finger on the trigger. Your finger needs to already be on the trigger, you should train to fire mid-sentence or fire while the hostage taker is talking and never close one eye to aim.

        The first shot needs to go higher than the forehead, no lower than the nose, and no farther left or right then the center of the eye. 10 to 20 feet.

        the sweet spot is 1 inch above the left eye, slightly center, but not dead center over the nose.



        While many will say damage to the left side of the brain may make a right hand contract (pulling the trigger), it's been said that the damage to the control portion of the brain would stop that "pulse" from ever leaving.
        In any case you are firing the shot the second the hostage takers firearm is not pointed at the hostage.

        Have a buddy SOFTLY say, "now" and that should indicate the firearm has been lowered by the criminal...so fire the single shot.

        The basic drill is to talk to the criminal, give commands or negotiate with them, then fire. This is not LEO training... this is civilian stuff...


        Nice! Would have never thought of this scenario... Will do. During all my range time, I've also been trying to be aware of round count and what's left in the magazine.

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        • #5
          Mojave Desert
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 309

          From pistol pointed in at target:
          1) Shoot w/ 2 hands, strong hand.
          2) Shoot w/ 2 hands, weak hand.
          3) Shoot w/ 1 hand, strong hand.
          4) Shoot w/ 1 hand, weak hand.

          From compressed or low ready, repeat same drill as above shooting 2-5 rounds at a string(while respecting the range's 1 shot per second rule). If you are shooting a double action auto, decock between strings, if shooting a single action auto, manipulate safety for each string.

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          • #6
            dieselpower
            Banned
            • Jan 2009
            • 11471

            Originally posted by Mojave Desert
            From pistol pointed in at target:
            1) Shoot w/ 2 hands, strong hand.
            2) Shoot w/ 2 hands, weak hand.
            3) Shoot w/ 1 hand, strong hand.
            4) Shoot w/ 1 hand, weak hand.

            From compressed or low ready, repeat same drill as above shooting 2-5 rounds at a string(while respecting the range's 1 shot per second rule). If you are shooting a double action auto, decock between strings, if shooting a single action auto, manipulate safety for each string.
            forgot about safety manipulation drills

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            • #7
              Mojave Desert
              Member
              • May 2011
              • 309

              Originally posted by dieselpower
              forgot about safety manipulation drills
              Why?

              The OP's desire to practice "drills" = desire to practice for defensive pistol use, no?

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              • #8
                Merc1138
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19742

                Originally posted by Mojave Desert
                Why?

                The OP's desire to practice "drills" = desire to practice for defensive pistol use, no?
                Then wouldn't it make sense to practice taking your gun off safe or back to DA mode between?

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                • #9
                  0321jarhead
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2116

                  Pending on where you live, try getting involved with Action Pistol Shooting. IDPA (Int'l. Defense Pistol Assoc.) at many ranges. You can learn a lot and it's fun. And there is competition too. http://diablorodandgun.com/activitie...action-pistol/
                  Last edited by 0321jarhead; 09-23-2012, 4:38 PM.
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                  • #10
                    dieselpower
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11471

                    Originally posted by Mojave Desert
                    Why?

                    The OP's desire to practice "drills" = desire to practice for defensive pistol use, no?
                    I said...FORGOT... not FORGET...

                    as in "I forgot about them".... I was not saying or implying that the OP forget about them...

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                    • #11
                      4DSJW
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 764

                      Besides the two-handed strong and weak side practice, along with the one-handed strong and weak side practice, you should also practice all of the transitions. I try to at least occasionally work on right eye, left eye, and both eyes (my personal weak point).

                      I have also put 2 or 3 smaller targets at the extreme edges of the target backboard so that I have to move the gun and pick up a new sight picture, even doing that you can be faster than the one shot per second rules allow.

                      Lot's to work on, I wish ammo was less expensive!
                      Last edited by 4DSJW; 09-23-2012, 5:02 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Dantedamean
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2293

                        I hate the one second rule. That's so lame. I guess if you haven't really practiced a double tap you can start there. My mom takes about 1-2 seconds in between shots.

                        Its not two shots in rapid succession like most people think. It's two shots as fast as you can accurately shoot them. So the less practiced you are the slower it will be.

                        I would highly recommend finding a good out door range or some strip of BLM land to practice on. Theres not much you can do at a range like that.

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                        • #13
                          kazman
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 528

                          You should practice target acquisition and firing from the low ready and also pushing out from the center chest position, getting within an 8" circle. Start at 7 yards for a few then move out farther. It's not easy, start the motion slow and when all your shots are in the circle, speed it up.

                          Sometimes I like to follow the first shot with a head shot hostage situation, which basically means take as much time as you need to make sure the shot hits in the small area across the eye cavities and down through the nose.

                          Some ranges won't mind if you take a small step left or right before your shot. Try this. Then do it whenever you reload or clear a snap cap (simulating that you don't just stand there while you reload).

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                          • #14
                            LAKings22
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1781

                            A lot of good drills listed here. I like to Load 4 mags with 3-5 rounds each (different amount in each). Pick a part of the target I will be focusing on and shoot, follow it by switching mags quickly and focusing on the same part of the target until all mags are done.

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                            • #15
                              guns4life
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4916

                              Work on point shooting from the hip...be ready to leave when you put a round through the roof.
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