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  • SilverTauron
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 5699

    Unwise Gun Sellers-Why Refuse a Deal?

    So last month our regional gun show was held, and I noticed a worn .40 S&W Tanfoglio Witness for sale. Price listed was $360, which would be acceptable-if the magazine it came with wasn't damaged. The previous owner dremel-ed out a hackneyed viewing window by cutting away the entire bottom side of the magazine, so only the front and back of it were intact.In all other respects the pistol was in average used condition and in functional order.

    In light of that I asked the owner if he had an EAA Witness .40 cal mag he could replace it with. No dice.

    So, I offer $300 on it. He says he'll go no lower than $350.

    Goodbye. I didn't hesitate for a second, I shook his hand and walked away from the table. Admittedly im befuddled by his hard line choice-Witness pistols are not exactly hot sellers in this region, so I fail to see what he'd gain by rejecting a likely sale unless he overpaid for the gun. Its doubtful another buyer is willing to take a chance on a gun with a defaced accessory, so that's even more reason to make a deal instead of playing hard to get.
    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
    -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

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    gti_20ae
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1695

    $350 doesn't seems like that bad of a deal, at least for So Cal it is not a bad deal. If someone post an used EAA Tanfoglio Witness for $350 on the "for sale section", I think it will be gone by tonight.
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    • #3
      SilverTauron
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2012
      • 5699

      Originally posted by gti_20ae
      $350 doesn't seems like that bad of a deal, at least for So Cal it is not a bad deal. If someone post an used EAA Tanfoglio Witness for $350 on the "for sale section", I think it will be gone by tonight.
      For an idea of the local prices, that same dealer was selling a brand new EAA witness poly in 9mm for $335 , right next to the .40 S&W pistol in my first post.

      The fact that these Tanfoglio pistols aren't on your roster distorts things a bit.
      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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      • #4
        bill_k_lopez
        Banned
        • May 2011
        • 2836

        Buyers should not assume that just because an item is placed for sale means seller NEEDS to sell.

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        • #5
          gti_20ae
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1695

          Originally posted by SilverTauron
          For an idea of the local prices, that same dealer was selling a brand new EAA witness poly in 9mm for $335 , right next to the .40 S&W pistol in my first post.

          The fact that these Tanfoglio pistols aren't on your roster distorts things a bit.
          True, that gun is dirt cheap out of state, but come on, if you are out of state, why look at that gun anyway. When I go to Phoenix gun show, I am always drooling over those $499 XDM.
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          • #6
            keenkeen
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2011
            • 6782

            Originally posted by bill_k_lopez
            Buyers should not assume that just because an item is placed for sale means seller NEEDS to sell.
            Amen.

            I am sure the seller in not pining away thinking about the Tanfoglio Witness buyer at the gun show last month that "got away"...
            "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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            • #7
              bohoki
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 20826

              take it or leave it he wants money and he will wait for it

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              • #8
                Paperchasin
                YOU are next!!
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2010
                • 6407

                Originally posted by SilverTauron
                For an idea of the local prices, that same dealer was selling a brand new EAA witness poly in 9mm for $335 , right next to the .40 S&W pistol in my first post.

                The fact that these Tanfoglio pistols aren't on your roster distorts things a bit.
                You do realize that you've come to a website that caters to California gun owners right? You will not get much empathy from any of us in California. To give you a more realistic feeling of the market here in California, see this thread here
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                • #9
                  10mm
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1113

                  That's life in the art of negotiating. Don't get so butt hurt.
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                  • #10
                    Jeepers
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3415

                    Unwise Gun Sellers-Why Refuse a Deal?
                    maybe because you offered him less then he wanted for it , not sure how its unwise of him to want to get his asking price ...
                    Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
                    Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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                    • #11
                      Cali-Shooter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9192

                      Whatever 'deal' that you worked out in your mind as one, that seller obviously didn't see it.

                      A deal isn't a deal unless both parties agree to it.
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                      • #12
                        jaymz
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6298

                        I'd give him $350 for it right now.
                        War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                        Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                        • #13
                          ArcherDog
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 808

                          I offered him ten bucks and a can of Pepsi and he wouldn't take my deal either!!!! Why do people have such huge expectations for their sales??????
                          Ian Lindsay
                          Tracy, CA

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                          • #14
                            keenkeen
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2011
                            • 6782

                            Originally posted by jaymz
                            I'd give him $350 for it right now.
                            SOLD!
                            "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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