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  • Hdawg
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 460

    Another question about DROS fees...

    I recently bought a used rifle from a local gun shop. I was charged $35 for the DROS. Is this legal? I was under the impression that $35 was for a PPT and $25 was for a dealer sale.
    Originally posted by CitaDeL
    Ante up or anti up. You decide.
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    tenpercentfirearms
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2005
    • 13007

    Were you charged $35 for DROS and $10 for a PPT fee? What was the total you paid?
    www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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    • #3
      keenkeen
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2011
      • 6782

      May have been a consignment....
      "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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      • #4
        CK_32
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2010
        • 14369

        Sound be $35 for a PPT.

        No tax.. No dealer fees. Just DROS.
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        • #5
          Hdawg
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 460

          It wasn't a PPT or a consignment. It was a used rifle that I bought from the gun shop. The charge on the receipt was $35 for DROS. There was no dealer fee or anything else listed except for the rifle and sales tax.
          Last edited by Hdawg; 09-13-2012, 6:15 PM. Reason: Spelling
          Originally posted by CitaDeL
          Ante up or anti up. You decide.

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          • #6
            keenkeen
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2011
            • 6782

            If it was not a consignment, then you where overcharged by $10 for the DROS.

            I am guessing it was a consignment...How about you call the ffl and ask?
            "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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            • #7
              Hdawg
              Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 460

              Originally posted by keenkeen
              If it was not a consignment, then you where overcharged by $10 for the DROS.

              I am guessing it was a consignment...How about you call the ffl and ask?
              When I bought it I asked if it was a consignment, they said no. Someone just brought the rifle in and sold it to the shop. The tags on the consignment guns in the shop have the word "consignment on them, also.
              Originally posted by CitaDeL
              Ante up or anti up. You decide.

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              • #8
                keenkeen
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2011
                • 6782

                Originally posted by Hdawg
                When I bought it I asked if it was a consignment, they said no. Someone just brought the rifle in and sold it to the shop. The tags on the consignment guns in the shop have the word "consignment on them, also.
                They can charge any fees they want when selling you a gun from their inventory...That said they should not be listing it as part of the DROS.

                Sound like they owe you $10, let us know how it turns out.
                "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                • #9
                  tenpercentfirearms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 13007

                  They over charged you for DROS and that is illegal. I would go back in and get your $10 back.

                  Now if they were smart, they would just add that $10 into the price of the firearm. However, they are not and they are breaking the law. Print this out and show it to them.

                  Firearms Dealers Links to Topics below General FAQs DROS Entry System (DES) Internet Process AB 1872/2165/2699 Dealer FAQs General FAQs What are California's licensing requirements for firearms dealers? How much is the annual Centralized List fee and when must it be paid? What is a California Firearms Dealer (CFD) number? Do I need to send copies of my dealer's Federal Firearms License and local firearms license(s) to DOJ? How is DROS information submitted? How do I get copies of the blank DROS worksheet? How can I correct or cancel a DROS submission?


                  17.What fees can I charge in addition to the DROS?
                  In addition to the State's $19.00 DROS fee, you must also charge a $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, you may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.

                  (PC sections 12071(b)(11), (12))
                  www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                  • #10
                    codypaint77
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 695

                    DOJ

                    Public Where do I find laws regarding the possession of firearms? I'm not sure whether I have a California record that would prevent me from owning/possessing a firearm. Is there a way to find out before I attempt to purchase one? What is the process for purchasing a firearm in California? How can I obtain a Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) license? Can I give a firearm to my adult child? Can he/she give it back to me later? Can I give a firearm to my spouse or registered domestic partner? Can he/she give it back to me later?


                    1.How much is the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) fee?

                    The State's DROS fee is $19.00 which covers the costs of the background checks and transfer registry. There is also a required $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, the dealer may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a state fee. In the event of a private party transfer, the firearms dealer may additionally charge a fee of $10 per firearm transferred.
                    When settling on the purchase price of a firearm and before completing the transaction, you may want to ask the dealer to disclose and identify any and all fees he/she is charging to complete the transaction.
                    (PC Sections 12076, 12082, and 12806)

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