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  • #16
    fishnbeer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 776

    i have rented guns before that have not been in the best shape. i rented a sig and the something was up with the slide lock, it was flopping around i had to hold it down in order to shoot it. they should not have rented it out like that

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    • #17
      voiceofreason
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 3785

      Where are all the Glock fanboys?

      Rental ANYTHING usually sucks and is barely cleaned/lubed.

      Talking to the folks at ranges that see/fix/rent heavy usage guns is a good way to learn about gun durability under bad maintenance.

      Learned a lot from the guys at LA Gun Club about which guns go down for what reason.
      "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
      John Quincy Adams

      "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
      voiceofreason

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      • #18
        bsg
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2009
        • 25954

        Originally posted by BluePhoenix7

        I certainly wouldn't buy a used gun from a range. I saw the guy take it back to lube it and dink with it for 5 minutes before he let us rent it. Apparently he was expecting problems already. And that Ruger slide was so sloppy it pulled in a huge chunk of her skin under the slide.

        if a range gun could speak, the words "why me?" would be the first ones spoken.

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        • #19
          BakaLogic
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 217

          Originally posted by bsg
          if a range gun could speak, the words "why me?" would be the first ones spoken.
          Hehe.

          Sorry to hear about your poor experience. Sounds like the range gods owe you one.
          "We're still flying." "That's not much." "It's enough."

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          • #20
            Snoopy47
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 3887

            Originally posted by BluePhoenix7

            Of course it was no where to be found. It didn't break or snag or tweak, it just straight up flew off. Anyone else had that problem with an external extractor with Kimber? I've heard it was a common problem.. but dang.

            Thanks for listening to my rant
            Why can't I find an external extractor model on Kimber's site?

            I didn't know they make them.

            ..............................

            Nevermind, I found them
            Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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            • #21
              mif_slim
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2008
              • 10089

              I thought you might of saw someone shot or something....but, jams are bad too I guess.
              Originally posted by Gottmituns
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              • #22
                Emdawg
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 4292

                Oh boy, this makes my dad's GKK look like a top quality gun!

                Naw just kidding, but that was wierd, hope that is a one and done deal for you.
                *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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                • #23
                  lonestarstate
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 122

                  Originally posted by gotshotgun?
                  Wow, good thing you weren't in a shootout....

                  Sorry, can't help on the extractor issue but they should be reasonably inexpensive to replace and drop in.
                  Seriously. Sorry about your bad day man. We all have those once in a while.

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                  • #24
                    SouthCoastTargets
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 357

                    HAHAHA and i thought my luck was bad!!! keep in mind my luck is so bad that i have friends that call me "murphy's *****", and honestly i cant disagree with them.

                    but seriously,

                    this range you speak of........... was it shooter's world in PHX??? might be going there tomorrow night and would like to know.

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                    • #25
                      LAKings22
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1781

                      Sucks hopefully you have better luck next time.

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                      • #26
                        Zartan
                        In Memoriam
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6269

                        Speaking of jacked up range guns, I was wanting to fire a .380 and everything but the Kahr was out for maintenance. First shot FTE, 2, 3, 4, FTE blah blah. Kinda pissed I had to buy 50rnds.
                        "If he won't walk, walk him...be nice"
                        -Dalton



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                        • #27
                          IEShooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1101

                          Crappy Days

                          Sorry to hear that man. We all have days like that.

                          Went to a handgun training session recently and one of the other students' gun kept jamming. A lot. Like every other round.

                          After awhile, I paid closer attention and he was running a very nice Wilson Combat 1911. They make very, very nice and reliable pistols.

                          What are the odds of that? I'm sure it was something easy to have corrected, but sometimes, its just a crappy day.

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                          • #28
                            SoCal326
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1098

                            Kimber did fix the extractor issue. The OPs gun is an older one.

                            You will not find the external extractor on the Kimber web site. They tried external extractors in their guns for a short time but they did not function well. Kimber went back to using internal extractors. I am curious to find out what they tell you when you call them. It is possible that they will ask you to send the gun back to them and they will fit it with a new slide, with an internal extractor. They should do it under warranty.

                            My Ultra Carry II with an external extractor is currently back at the factory. I sent it back because of reliability issues related to the external extractor. I hope they just replace the slide, I'll find out when they ship it back.
                            Last edited by SoCal326; 09-07-2012, 9:51 AM.

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                            • #29
                              morfeeis
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 7605

                              Sucks that you had a bad day at the range, i was one of those lucky jerks that got flawless rental guns. I was trying to make up my mind up on what 45acp pistol i wanted as i hadn't had a new one in ages, so i rented a 3rd gen G21 and a S&W1911. they both eat all 100 rounds (50 rounds each) of the over priced under powered range ammo without a hiccup. I did fall back in love with the G21 that day.


                              Anyway i'd say give the SR9 another try mine hasn't had one problem yet that i can remember.
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                              • #30
                                drifter2be
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 2177

                                Originally posted by BluePhoenix7
                                So I've been married for 4 months now and the wife already owns a shotgun and is looking into getting a handgun. Score.

                                We decide to do some research and then head to the range. We're currently staying in Arizona so I thought now is a good time to buy.

                                Last night we get to the range and my Kimber 1911 Eclipse Pro II tags along. We rent a Sig P226 in 9mm, get some targets, and set up.

                                She fires a round with the Sig and it jams immediately. Ok, no biggy. She clears it, fires again, jams again. Well, maybe she's limp wristing it. I take over, first three shots are fine, fourth jams. I take a look and the feeding round is completely vertical. Looked like a magazine issue. Plus the gun has seen better days. So we go back in and swap it out for a Ruger SR9.

                                She starts shooting down range with the Ruger, by round 14 it jams. Really? These guns have to be in the worst shape or something. The last time I shot a Sig P226 it was flawless, same with a Ruger. So she goes to clear the jam and it bites her, really bad. She's obviously done. I finish clearing it and toss the last 16 rounds downrange.

                                Ok, well that was an experience. At least I have my good 'ol Kimber with me. I load it up, hang a new target and send it out. First round felt good. I love this gun. Second round was dead on. Third round-- JAMMED!?!??! ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME! Ok, I calm down. Clear the jam and fire again. JAMMED AGAIN!!!! I look to the side of the gun only to notice the extractor is missing. Oh, well that explains why it was jamming... WAIT WHAT MY EXTRACTOR IS MISSING?!?!?! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGG!!!

                                Of course it was no where to be found. It didn't break or snag or tweak, it just straight up flew off. Anyone else had that problem with an external extractor with Kimber? I've heard it was a common problem.. but dang.

                                Thanks for listening to my rant
                                I need to ask, just so I avoid renting guns at the range you went to, which range was it, if you don't want to "out" them publicly could you at least PM me. I only ask because my GF is in the market for a handgun and I really don't want to waste time at a range with extremely beaten up guns.
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