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  • SilverTauron
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 5699

    We have LIFTOFF!

    Two days ago I purchased a neat 1911. Noting that its interior and exterior were clogged with factory preservative, I took my cleaning gear with me to an outdoor range. The purpose was to buy the weapon, take it to the range and clean it on site before shooting.

    On this day, the drama started before I even loaded the first magazine. I depress the recoil spring plug to slide off the bushing. Being a brand new 1911, the bushing is VERY tight to the barrel. In the process of struggling to turn the bushing over I hear a ssssssslink and see a small metal object fly by my face on course for low Earth orbit.

    The muzzle of my 1911 now has a crooked bushing and an empty spot where there used to be a guide rod plug. Didn't even have the thing for 1 hour and I already have to order a new part, wait on shipping, mother &*)$$(#(@*@*.

    Sigh.

    I suppose I have to put all this awa-what was that ?

    I walk over 3 feet to my right to see the recoil spring plug sitting in the dirt,none the worse for wear from re-entry into the atmosphere.

    I hope NASA didn't scramble NORAD on my account.
    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
    -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

    The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.
  • #2
    unusedusername
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4124

    Gallon sized ziplock bags.

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    • #3
      redcliff
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2008
      • 5676

      Pull the slide stop and remove the whole slide assembly intact with you hand cupped under and controlling the recoil spring and guide rod assembly

      What kinda 1911 was it though?
      "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
      "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
      "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

      "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
      although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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      • #4
        SilverTauron
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2012
        • 5699

        Originally posted by redcliff
        Pull the slide stop and remove the whole slide assembly intact with you hand cupped under and controlling the recoil spring and guide rod assembly

        What kinda 1911 was it though?
        Remington 1911 R1. The barrel bushing is tightly fitted on that gun, so even with the GI guidespring setup I still have to use a lot of pressure to keep the spring in place.
        The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
        The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
        -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

        The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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        • #5
          redcliff
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2008
          • 5676

          Originally posted by SilverTauron
          Remington 1911 R1. The barrel bushing is tightly fitted on that gun, so even with the GI guidespring setup I still have to use a lot of pressure to keep the spring in place.
          Nice on the R1

          I almost always disassemble my 1911's by pulling the slide stop and removing the whole slide assembly complete, then remove the recoil spring guide rod from the rear. Once I bought my first Browning HP 30 years ago or so and field-stripped it I asked myself why I was rotating the bushing and removing the recoil spring assembly on my 1911's before removing the slide. Come to find out there are even advantages to using the BHP style take-down.

          The reason is you really want to avoid turning a tightly fitted match bushing while the barrel is in it's final locked up position. In effect you want to simulate the slide being retracted by 3/8" of an inch or more in order that the bushing can spin more freely in the slide without pressure on either the barrel or bushing. By doing this you prevent whiping excess clearance into the bushing and get a longer life to your bushing fit between barrel and slide. Theres actually a small mismatch of angles between the barrel and the axis of rotation of the bushing.

          When reassembling it can be difficult to pre-install the recoil spring and guide assembly first. I sometimes use a chamber flag or 9mm or .45 case inserted between the barrel and breachface to keep the slide retracted a little while i twist the bushing to capture the recoil spring plug after reinstalling the slide. But if you can pre-install your life is easier.

          Alchemy Custom did a video on the takedown method I use, I'll see if I can find it. Edit: Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhPari7dpc
          Last edited by redcliff; 08-25-2012, 6:38 AM.
          "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
          "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
          "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

          "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
          although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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          • #6
            wjc
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2009
            • 10877

            Congrats on the 1911!

            What's the reasoning behind cleaning it at the range?

            I'd prefer to clean and disassemble at home to make sure everything stays in one room when the "sproinggg" hits.
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            • #7
              SilverTauron
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2012
              • 5699

              Originally posted by wjc
              Congrats on the 1911!

              What's the reasoning behind cleaning it at the range?

              I'd prefer to clean and disassemble at home to make sure everything stays in one room when the "sproinggg" hits.
              Because it takes longer to drive home from my local gun store than it does to go directly to the range from there.
              The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
              The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
              -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

              The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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              • #8
                gef
                Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 251

                [QUOTE=SilverTauron;9197472] I hear a ssssssslink and see a small metal object fly by my face on course for low Earth orbit.

                Priceless.

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                • #9
                  rero360
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3926

                  I took a bit of skin off my forehead doing that once, learned from it. luckily it didn't hit my eyes.

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                  • #10
                    Arkangel
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 4458

                    My plug has only taken off on me once...

                    Look at it this way, lessons learned the hard way often stick better.
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                    (ಠ_ృ) riveting tale, chap.

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                    • #11
                      jyo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5314

                      ALWAYS wear safety glasses when working on firearms---your day could REALLY take a turn for the worse if this piece was sticking in your eye! That said, enjoy your new pistol!

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                      • #12
                        RedRiderF26
                        Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 255

                        You know, you can use an empty 45acp cartridge as a temporary guide rod/ recoil spring plug. FYI

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                        • #13
                          Loubot10
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3078

                          When you completely break it down be ready when you remove the thumb safety. The tiny double headed spring that checks the slide release and thumb safety.... It wants to be free.

                          I lost it in my den for 3 days when I first started working on my 1911s.
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                          They want to be rulers. Well I don't effing want to be ruled, I want to be represented.

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                          • #14
                            SgtDinosaur
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1386

                            My plug flew off into the bamboo in my backyard one time. That was my first time ordering from Brownells.
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                            • #15
                              9mmepiphany
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 8075

                              Originally posted by redcliff
                              Pull the slide stop and remove the whole slide assembly intact with you hand cupped under and controlling the recoil spring and guide rod assembly
                              That is the way I disassemble my 1911s too...it just makes life easier when the bushing is tightly fitted
                              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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