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  • sully007
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1612

    Guns never DROS'ed

    Question: I see these ads for firearms NIB never fired, never DROS'ed. How does that work in ca, how can you own a gun never DROS'ed, if you live in the state?
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    bruceflinch
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 40139

    Not every state has our Libtard gun laws.
    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

    I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

    Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

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    • #3
      Vin496
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2008
      • 8804

      Originally posted by sully007
      Question: I see these ads for firearms NIB never fired, never DROS'ed. How does that work in ca, how can you own a gun never DROS'ed, if you live in the state?
      When they say DROSed they really mean registered. I believe the DROS system has always been part of(or for a very long time) the buying experience in California.

      Registration of handguns didn't start till 1991. So all the handguns purchased before 1991 are unregistered unless the owner felt the need to voluntarily register them.
      I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

      and

      If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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      • #4
        sully007
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 1612

        Some of these ads are for firearms with birth dates of 2012, 2011, etc.

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44676

          See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Firearms_registration

          It's just barely possible that someone moved into CA with a NIB gun, and they are trying to sell it instead of do the New Resident registration and fee before the 60 days are up; that's allowed by law.

          But, if they're selling into CA, the gun must go through a CA FFL, so it will run through DROS then.
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          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            sully007
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1612

            Look at this ad many newer firearms not DROS'ed



            I see this alot

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            • #7
              Root66
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 354

              Coulda been a dealer's old stock that was never sold?
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              • #8
                redcliff
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2008
                • 5676

                Originally posted by sully007
                Look at this ad many newer firearms not DROS'ed



                I see this alot
                I occasionally see ads like that, often when someone orders 2 or more handguns and has one or more on hold while his 30 day wait between DROS's runs.

                If the person you linked to is not an FFL, which I don't believe he is by his wording, he's dancing close to being considerred engaged in the business.
                "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                • #9
                  bender152
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 4237

                  He is an FFL.

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                  • #10
                    redcliff
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5676

                    Originally posted by bender152
                    He is an FFL.
                    Than shouldn't he be posting in "Commercial Sales" instead of "Private Firearms Sales"?
                    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                    "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                    "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                    "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                    although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                    • #11
                      Ron-Solo
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8581

                      Originally posted by Vin496
                      When they say DROSed they really mean registered. I believe the DROS system has always been part of(or for a very long time) the buying experience in California.

                      Registration of handguns didn't start till 1991. So all the handguns purchased before 1991 are unregistered unless the owner felt the need to voluntarily register them.
                      The DROS requirement has been in effect since the 1920's. The DROS procedure was integrated with AFS (Automated Firearms System) in the late 1970's. I have handguns purchased in the late 70's and early 80's that have a DROS record in AFS.

                      The 1991 date you refer to is when the transfer between private individuals was required to be conducted thru an FFL, thus generating a DROS record.

                      A DROS record is NOT the same as registration. There is no law requiring the registration of handguns with the exception of those that fall under the California definition of an assault weapon.
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                      • #12
                        keenkeen
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2011
                        • 6782

                        Originally posted by bender152
                        He is an FFL.
                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        Than shouldn't he be posting in "Commercial Sales" instead of "Private Firearms Sales"?
                        I think so...
                        "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                        • #13
                          alfred1222
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 7331

                          Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                          The DROS requirement has been in effect since the 1920's. The DROS procedure was integrated with AFS (Automated Firearms System) in the late 1970's. I have handguns purchased in the late 70's and early 80's that have a DROS record in AFS.

                          The 1991 date you refer to is when the transfer between private individuals was required to be conducted thru an FFL, thus generating a DROS record.

                          A DROS record is NOT the same as registration. There is no law requiring the registration of handguns with the exception of those that fall under the California definition of an assault weapon.
                          Umm all handguns bought after 1991 are registered...
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          This guy is a complete and total idiot.
                          /thread.

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                          • #14
                            Librarian
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 44676

                            Originally posted by alfred1222
                            Umm all handguns bought after 1991 are registered...
                            If they were bought correctly through a CA FFL, yes.

                            But people moving here were not required to do the new-resident things until 1998.
                            ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                            • #15
                              scrat
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1516

                              ahhh the good old days when you bought guns in the late 80's and 1990
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