How screwed are we?

[Dantedamean]

The events of last night were tragic and horrific. That being said, that's not what this thread is about.
I want to see what everyone thinks the impact will be on gun control. I'm already hearing hints of it even on fox news. Saying "guns were purchased legally" and talking about both Obama and Romneys actions toward gun control. Someone posed on my Facebook that CNN had a big gun control segment due to this as well. I'll post the link in a bit.

[erik_26]

Just remember, there were 84 million gun owners that didn't kill anyone last night.

[Ubermcoupe]

Bloomberg (et al) is already tooting his more gun control propaganda.

My immediate concern is this may harm the carry fight, albeit it could also help the carry fight.

Regardless, this incident (and those like it) do one thing well and that is to increase emotional responses, many of which are swayed into supporting further restrictions on our right 2A civil liberties.

[Dantedamean]

Here's the link.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/07/20/CNN-Explots-Batman-Tragedy

[Kendall6.8]

Just remember, there were 84 million gun owners that didn't kill anyone last night.

Well said

[CBruce]

The events of last night were tragic and horrific. That being said, that's not what this thread is about.
I want to see what everyone thinks the impact will be on gun control. I'm already hearing hints of it even on fox news. Saying "guns were purchased legally" and talking about both Obama and Romneys actions toward gun control. Someone posed on my Facebook that CNN had a big gun control segment due to this as well. I'll post the link in a bit.

Not much. We're too far from the elections to be meaningful unless the candidates want to abandon the economy and focus on gun-control to keep it propped up as an issue demanding attention.

Realistically, by the time November is here we'll have moved on to something else or moved back to the economy, health-care, etc and regardless of who's elected their stance on gun-control won't be much different than it was 2 days ago.

[tbc]

In California, we are already screwed...


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[blockfort]

Just remember, there were 84 million gun owners that didn't kill anyone last night.

No, I'm pretty sure there's about 280 million guns in America, that's the number they were using on NPR today.

[blockfort]

I could imagine some proposals against AR-15s and AKs getting support in the government and liberals.

[JavaBrewer]

After seeing what the CBS spot on bullet buttons, or specifically the mag button, caused politically I am concerned. I am for background checks and limiting guns based on common sense approvals however I not ignorant to the fact that when it comes to firearm appreciation and hobby shooting I am/we are in the definite minority.

[cruising7388]

Just remember, there were 84 million gun owners that didn't kill anyone last night.

That's going to fly about as well as Obama claiming that 52 million Americans didn't lose their jobs during the last four years.

[joepamjohn]

I think you will see some heightened restrictions for sure in some of the "free states" as I so often hear that term on here, relating to high cap mags and also more restrictions on internet ammo purchases.

The rest of the country will soon have similar restrictions that we currently have in California and those "free states" will soon not be so free afterall.

What we have here is not as much of a gun and ammo issue as it is a complete breakdown of values in our society where human life has little to no value for many twisted individuals. Society will always insist blame needs to be placed on someone when an event like this happens and guns and related items are the easiest target.

In this case, along with the poor souls in the theather, society will also paint the shooter as a victim too rather than blame him for his actions as should be the case.

[Agent 0range]

No, I'm pretty sure there's about 280 million guns in America, that's the number they were using on NPR today.

Yes, but those 280 million are owned by how many? 280 million guns divided by 84 million owners only equates to 3.33 guns per owner. I'm well over that already and I just started a little over a year ago.

[Agent 0range]

With 84 million gun owners being about 27% of the US population, imagine a National "take a friend to the range day" where 25% of those first timers were converted to gun owners. That would put 33% of the US population as gun owners. What better way to spread awareness about our 2A rights?

[drkphibr]

Just imagine how the movie theater events might have unfolded had ANY of the audience been armed/carrying (legally of course). The dead/wounded would probably have been significantly lower and there would be one less murderer that we'd have to support on death row for the next 25+ years.

Lawmakers stumble on this on every time. The bad guys don't follow the law, only the good citizens do because we're worried about the consequences. Regardless of what gun laws exist in any state, someone intent on doing great harm is not going to abide by them so they are irrivalent when it comes to the bad guys. Take away his guns and he'll go to plan B, C, D and all the way down the line.

Cars kill more people than guns do annually, no laws banning/limiting them. How many times have you read about someone plowing into a crowd and killing/injuring people either on purpose or by accident?

Innate objects by themselves don't kill people. People kill people and they will continue to find ways to do so, regardless of the method.

Look at the old guy who shot at 2 robbers with guns. Imagine how that would have gone down if he wasn't there and they were intent on hurting/killing someone.

The death and life changing damage this kid caused is truly devastating. Not trying to sidestep that. I don't, however, feel more gun control is the solution.