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  • #16
    Dirty506
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 636

    ya hes in his 80s and the ruger gp100 is what i would lean towards. i owned one in the past and they are easy to shoot and reliable. but a break open shotgun may be even easier. i dunno. there really is no right answer here, just opinions. and each person and scenario is different.

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    • #17
      Dirty506
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 636

      what would be your guys input on a 410 break open shotgun. over under or SxS

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      • #18
        voiceofreason
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3785

        Originally posted by Dirty506
        what would be your guys input on a 410 break open shotgun. over under or SxS
        Why limit the # of rounds available? Can they reload effectively under stress?
        a break open would limit their firepower

        CA doesn't have many available, but this is another example of where a pistol caliber carbine would be a great option.

        9mm recoil out of a lightweight carbine, 147grain +p or a 180 grain .40 would do nicely

        I would generally NOT recommend any rimfire round for SD, but a .22 rifle like a 10/22 or 795 might be a backstop option if they need a long gun, but are recoil sensitive.

        CCI AR Tactical and Federal Value Pack hollowpoints are both good options provided they function reliably in their specific firearms. The lead nosed/non-copper plated rounds like Blazer are horrible. Would rather have a big sword than trust my life to a .22 cycling those rounds.
        "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
        John Quincy Adams

        "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
        voiceofreason

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        • #19
          oddjob
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2003
          • 2399

          Lever action 22lr....like a Henry Rifle, W-W 94/22, Marlin, Browning BLR .22 & etc.....Or a lever action center fire rifle in a handgun caliber like a .38/.357. Easily stored with an empty chamber and loaded tube, but fast to "make ready!". Plenty of rounds and soft shooting.....and Fun!
          Last edited by oddjob; 07-19-2012, 9:52 PM.

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          • #20
            BigDogatPlay
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2007
            • 7362

            One of these.... everything you need in a defensive firearm, and nothing you don't need. Simple, reliable, and potent enough to get the job done.

            -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

            Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

            Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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            • #21
              Mr. Beretta
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 6614

              Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
              One of these.... everything you need in a defensive firearm, and nothing you don't need. Simple, reliable, and potent enough to get the job done.



              This /\ /\ /\ /\ /\

              Nobody ever raped a 38!

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              • #22
                smle-man
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2007
                • 10585

                .22 DA revolver.

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                • #23
                  bsg
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 25954

                  Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                  One of these.... everything you need in a defensive firearm, and nothing you don't need. Simple, reliable, and potent enough to get the job done.


                  good suggestion.

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                  • #24
                    Dirty506
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 636

                    i dont think semi autos regardless of make model or type would be good due to the fact that they could jam and at his age i dont think performing immediate action is going to be somehting he becomes proficient at or if he can even remember it under pressure. for me hell yes i beleive i could perform with any firearm i am roughly familiar with. maybe even some ive never shot before but in my opinion simpler is better. his hand strength isnt horrible but it is a fact that joints and strength diminish with age. i like the lever 22 idea and i do have one for him to use(i actually got it from him it was one of his dads). its a marlin model 39M article 2. havent fired it yet and it hasnt been for a while i dont think. ive been cleaning it up and soon i am going to take it to the range and put a few hundred through it see if it is reliable in its state(which i would say is phenomenal for surviving a fire). i am going to take him out with that my buddies 1100 20ga and i'm gonna get a 38 from somewhere. as far as break opens ya 2 shots isnt much but with a good first shot and proper placement you shouldnt need more than that. if i put a light and laser i htink it owuld be easy for him to make a hit. i really need to take that 22 out though i've been wanting to for a while

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                    • #25
                      Dirty506
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 636

                      i dont think semi autos regardless of make model or type would be good due to the fact that they could jam and at his age i dont think performing immediate action is going to be somehting he becomes proficient at or if he can even remember it under pressure. for me hell yes i beleive i could perform with any firearm i am roughly familiar with. maybe even some ive never shot before but in my opinion simpler is better. his hand strength isnt horrible but it is a fact that joints and strength diminish with age. i like the lever 22 idea and i do have one for him to use(i actually got it from him it was one of his dads). its a marlin model 39M article 2. havent fired it yet and it hasnt been for a while i dont think. ive been cleaning it up and soon i am going to take it to the range and put a few hundred through it see if it is reliable in its state(which i would say is phenomenal for surviving a fire). i am going to take him out with that my buddies 1100 20ga and i'm gonna get a 38 from somewhere. as far as break opens ya 2 shots isnt much but with a good first shot and proper placement you shouldnt need more than that. if i put a light and laser i htink it owuld be easy for him to make a hit. i really need to take that 22 out though i've been wanting to for a while

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                      • #26
                        Ron-Solo
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8581

                        For a hd situation, two shots from a 20 gauge shotgun is going to be very effective. Just make sure he doesn't fire both barrels at once.

                        For handguns, you can't go wrong with a S&W .38 revolver.

                        Keep it simple, as fine motor skills diminish with age.

                        Stay away from .22 for HD. .380 is barely enough stopping power.
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                        1978-2011

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                        • #27
                          Grumpyoldretiredcop
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 6437

                          Consider a 20 ga. over and under shotgun with a single trigger - can't fire both barrels at the same time, just aim, squeeze, repeat, then reload.

                          I agree with the .38 (or .357 Magnum so that the option is there, even if he never uses it). There's enough S&W Model 19s and 66s out there that you/he should be able to find one.
                          I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                          • #28
                            0321jarhead
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2116

                            Now knowing your folks are in there 80's is a big help. So yes, let's forget about a .38. Mine are also in there 80's. What I have loaned my folks is my old Ruger Mark I. Semi-auto .22lr hp. My parents feel safe with that.
                            "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
                            Ronald Reagan

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                            • #29
                              Dirty506
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 636

                              I'm gonna put a bulk box of ammo through the lever 22 I have this week and see how reliable it operates and make a decision from there. I figure some.velocities would do alright for HD with a 22

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