taking over an old trap/skeet range...

[KandyRedCoi]

and if all goes well would also want to add some pistol/rifle areas as well

the place is located inside a private resort, owner would sublease the trap/skeet range to me and the possible area for pistol/rifle in the near future

what would be the things i need to consider to make this happen?
what is the difference between a public and a private range?

and yes the facility is outdoor, there is already a rangemaster

any info, suggestions and considerations are greatly appreciated

thanks!

[BigDogatPlay]

Insurance... you need to have plenty.

Use permit(s)... city / county / state. Are the current permits transferable? If not, plan for major downtime while the bureaucracy is dealt with.

Neighbors... what is their stance? It's in a resort, yes, but if there are pesky neighbors who don't like the noise or don't understand the environmental side (i.e. lead is not water soluble) you could expect them to put up anything between a fuss and outright resistance / litigation if you have to go through a permitting process.

Facilities... are there any and what kind of condition are they in? Work or replacement needed?

Environmental mitigation... probably most important. When was the last time, if ever, lead was cleaned up?

Pending actions... is there any litigation going against the property now?

[KandyRedCoi]

my major concern is the insurance, ive read somewhere that 'outdoor private' range would be the cheapest to insure (relatively speaking)

city permits is not an issue as this is already a
pre existing range

no neighbors with in at least a 1/4mile away or even further

facilities are all good to go, the resort is well maintained and everything is good

as far as environmental, would it matter if its all on private land, the land area of the resort is over 1000acres of private property, dont know if that matters but would like more info

thanks!

[JaMail]

contact the NRA, they have resources for people opening ranges.

[KandyRedCoi]

thanks, i saw that too, ill be contacting them this week

[cannon]

usually you need conditional use permits. Our range has ones for each pistol, rifle, trap and skeet range.

Check with the county and/or city before you start anything.

Carpenters quit carrying range insurance but you can get it through the NRA.

Yes, lead levels are usually monitored.

[KandyRedCoi]

thanks! i also saw the NRA insurance as well and also a company called OIG Outdoor Insurance Group

[alfred1222]

I don't have advice, but good luck with the business, Lord knows we need more ranges in this state

[damon1272]

Also be very aware and up on the logs regarding lead exposure and lead remediation/removal on the site. What are the limits (physical boundaries) of the site and to make sure no lead goes off site or if it does it is not a big deal.

[KandyRedCoi]

I don't have advice, but good luck with the business, Lord knows we need more ranges in this state

yup thanks!

Also be very aware and up on the logs regarding lead exposure and lead remediation/removal on the site. What are the limits (physical boundaries) of the site and to make sure no lead goes off site or if it does it is not a big deal.

yes something i will def look into

[Curley Red]

as far as environmental, would it matter if its all on private land, the land area of the resort is over 1000acres of private property, dont know if that matters but would like more info

thanks!

Just because the land is on private property doesn't mean you can ignore the environmental laws.

[smle-man]

Make sure there is no ponds or flowing streams that lead will end up in; make the resort liable for any existing environmental hazards. Do an environmental survey before moving forward. Hope you have deep pockets.

[stix213]

I'd think:

* Insurance
* Proper wording of the release form
* Cost of replacing the backstop / frequency of replacing the backstop

[AJAX22]

Do NOT personally contract for the use of the land, use a corporation to do it.

Read up on the EPA regulations and the issues with joint and several liability in superfund sites.

[KandyRedCoi]

Make sure there is no ponds or flowing streams that lead will end up in; make the resort liable for any existing environmental hazards. Do an environmental survey before moving forward. Hope you have deep pockets.

I'd think:

* Insurance
* Proper wording of the release form
* Cost of replacing the backstop / frequency of replacing the backstop

Do NOT personally contract for the use of the land, use a corporation to do it.

Read up on the EPA regulations and the issues with joint and several liability in superfund sites.

thanks, all things will def be considered

pocket is not an issue, i have a budget in mind and will not go forward if it gets too expensive, my only overhead so far will be the rangemaster and insurance

land lease will be free, and i might only be open saturday/sunday as thats when the resort is busiest

ill update as i go...