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  • drdanno84
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2005
    • 1416

    KFI SA85M (hungarian)

    I have a registered KFI (Kassnar-flas imports) ak47 that I purchased 7 years ago and registered it with the doj. I cannot find this particular model on the assault weapons banned list and am thinking of selling it after I remove the pistol grip.
    Does anyone know if this is legal to do?. This is the model:
    Last edited by drdanno84; 01-15-2008, 7:04 AM.
  • #2
    stevie
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3856

    I believe that if you registered this rifle as a AW with the DOJ. It will always now be considered such in this state.

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    • #3
      Stanze
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3301

      Originally posted by stevie
      I believe that if you registered this rifle as a AW with the DOJ. It will always now be considered such in this state.
      Incorrect, if the rifle is not listed and registered as a "AW", he can remove the "AW" features and sell it. Although, why would he do that is beyond me since he has a registered "AW" which is priceless in this commie state.
      Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

      "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


      "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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      • #4
        stevie
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3856

        Originally posted by Stanze
        Incorrect, if the rifle is not listed and registered as a "AW", he can remove the "AW" features and sell it. Although, why would he do that is beyond me since he has a registered "AW" which is priceless in this commie state.
        You are correct.... He can submit paperwork to cancel the AW status, checked the DOJ website. I think better to submit cancellation before selling the rifle.



        Last edited by stevie; 01-15-2008, 8:29 AM.

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        • #5
          bwiese
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 27621

          Stevie is incorrect, other posters are correct.

          A non-'listed' registered AW (that is, not listed on either Kasler or Roberti-Roos lists) can be de-registered with DOJ *after* sufficient evil features are removed.

          Before any shipment or sale is made, the AW-triggering evil feature(s) need to be removed.

          Actually, since this is a Category III AW, it can have evil features be removed and then shipped to FFL even though still reg'd as an AW. But it's prob a good idea to deregister anyway if you were to sell it.

          HOWEVER - I must say... you'll only get a couple of hundred bucks at most outta this gun; you're absolutely SILLY to sell it. Although good guns, these are fairly common in other states - and the ability to legally use such a gun with all its features intact is something many here would pay THOUSANDS for if they could (as well ownership of the related hicap mags).

          Don't sell it!!!
          Last edited by bwiese; 01-15-2008, 11:25 AM.

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          • #6
            drdanno84
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            • Dec 2005
            • 1416

            Change of heart!!

            Thanks for the information, I've decided to keep it even though I don't fire it much an tend to shoot my registered bushmaster ar-15's more at the range.

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            • #7
              bwiese
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 27621

              Originally posted by drdanno84
              Thanks for the information, I've decided to keep it even though I don't fire it much an tend to shoot my registered bushmaster ar-15's more at the range.
              Good decision. We need to keep all the reg'd AWs in CA we can just so folks still know about their existence.

              Bill Wiese
              San Jose, CA

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              • #8
                savasyn
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 3201

                That's funny, this is basically the same question I asked about this exact rifle after joining this board months ago. Needless to say, I got the same advice. I have kept it and have swapped out the FCG for US made parts so I can put on the proper pistol grip and stock(albeit also US made.) Finally getting to have a LEGALLY OWNED AK that actually looks like an AK made it worth keeping. Not to mention being able to thumb my nose in the direction of the gun-grabbing wankers.

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                • #9
                  Dump1567
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 1621

                  So the Hungarian SA-85 was never listed? Interesting. How did they miss that?

                  This was the only thumbhole stock that ever felt right to me. Never bought one. Wish I had when they were in the $300 range.
                  Watch & Pray

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                  • #10
                    TacFan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3021

                    Originally posted by Dump1567
                    So the Hungarian SA-85 was never listed? Interesting. How did they miss that?

                    This was the only thumbhole stock that ever felt right to me. Never bought one. Wish I had when they were in the $300 range.
                    wow ... they were that CHEAP
                    Last edited by TacFan; 01-15-2008, 5:56 PM.
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                    • #11
                      savasyn
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3201

                      Yeah, I think I paid $325 or $375 at Turners of all places. They'd throw me out if I tried to bring it back in the door these days!

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                      • #12
                        stevie
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3856

                        My SA-85 was about 400.00
                        Last edited by stevie; 01-15-2008, 8:33 PM.

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                        • #13
                          dondo
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1887

                          My MAK90 with all acc. and 1 10 rd and 1 30rd mag was $169.59 at B&B in Westminster back in oh like.....oh a long time ago.

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                          • #14
                            VeryCoolCat
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11275

                            I highly recommend you do not do this. An AK47 can be quite useful in todays society for home defense.
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
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                            Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                            • #15
                              TacFan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 3021

                              Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
                              I highly recommend you do not do this. An AK47 can be quite useful in todays society for home defense.

                              Ok guys you already talked him out of it. I was supposed to be the buyer. Thaks for the help guys
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