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  • Safra460
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 306

    Les Baer TRS Trigger Creep

    Hi,
    I just bought a used TRS and it had about 500 rounds thru it from the first owner.
    However I noticed a slight play or creep before I feel any tightness and the trigger pull feels crisp after the initial play.

    Anyone TRS owner has the same experience?
    Call it be adjusted or do I have to send it back for service?

    Thanks in advance for any advice or help.
  • #2
    IPSICK
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 4259

    Is this your 1st 1911?

    What you've described sounds like normal pre-travel.
    "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

    "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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    • #3
      Brandon04GT
      In Memoriam
      • Feb 2011
      • 3016

      A very slight amount of take up is normal on a 1911.

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      • #4
        MrPlutonium
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 503

        A light and smooth pre travel is normal for a 1911. If it's kind of gritty, it may be a problem but other than that a bit of takeup on the trigger is normal.

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        • #5
          Supertac916
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 2423

          I've owned a LB TRS and I have a Supertac. As the other posters said 1911's do have some pre-travel. I'm assuming your TRS isn't your first 1911 because most of us don't drop nearly $2k on our first. Keep in mind that 500 rounds thru a LB hasn't even broken the gun in yet. If it's griddy, than you could send the gun back to LB and they'll clean it up for you.

          However, I worked at a range and gun store, so I would pick the guns with the best triggers. I have handled a few who's triggers had more travel and who's triggers weren't perfect. There were very few LB's, but I found significant differences in the highend Springfields and Kimbers.

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          • #6
            Safra460
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 306

            Thank you all for the reassurance. It is my first 1911 and my SVI 2011 did not have this pre travel so I was a liitle surprised.
            Sound like this is normal.
            Is there any gun smith in the south bay that is capable of removing this pre travel?

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            • #7
              Supertac916
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 2423

              Originally posted by wfloo
              Thank you all for the reassurance. It is my first 1911 and my SVI 2011 did not have this pre travel so I was a liitle surprised.
              Sound like this is normal.
              Is there any gun smith in the south bay that is capable of removing this pre travel?
              Pretty nice starter 1911

              I'd put another 500-1,000 rounds thru it and it'll probably break itself in. I remember there were guys who would send their LB's back to Baer because their guns were too tight. In my opinion, if you give it 1,000-1,500 rounds your trigger should be fine. I'd rather spend the money on ammo, rather then spending $80-$100 getting the pre-travel or creep out. I'm out near Sacramento, so I don't know any of the Gunsmiths out in the Bay. If it's that bad, just contact LB and they'll fix it for you without charge. You'll just have to ship it to them.

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              • #8
                IPSICK
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 4259

                Originally posted by wfloo
                Thank you all for the reassurance. It is my first 1911 and my SVI 2011 did not have this pre travel so I was a liitle surprised.
                Sound like this is normal.
                Is there any gun smith in the south bay that is capable of removing this pre travel?
                Kind of hard comparing a semi-custom Les Baer trigger with basically a full house custom SVI. The SVI may even have a rolling trigger which might explain the lack of perceptible pre-travel. I'm gonna assume again that the SVI has a noticeably lighter trigger than the Les Baer.

                You might have better luck finding a smith to get the kind of trigger you want by asking in the Competition forum or maybe going to an action shooting range/match. Shooters at Richmond Hot Shots would probably have tons of recommendations. "prc77" shoots there and so does "GeoffLinder".
                "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                • #9
                  IPSICK
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 4259

                  Originally posted by Supertac916
                  Pretty nice starter 1911

                  I'd put another 500-1,000 rounds thru it and it'll probably break itself in. I remember there were guys who would send their LB's back to Baer because their guns were too tight. In my opinion, if you give it 1,000-1,500 rounds your trigger should be fine. I'd rather spend the money on ammo, rather then spending $80-$100 getting the pre-travel or creep out. I'm out near Sacramento, so I don't know any of the Gunsmiths out in the Bay. If it's that bad, just contact LB and they'll fix it for you without charge. You'll just have to ship it to them.
                  A broken-in trigger does not equate to a high end custom trigger job. More rounds fired will not give him the trigger experience he is looking for. I'm not even sure if the LB smiths are willing or able to give him the trigger he is looking for.
                  "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                  "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                  • #10
                    Shenaniguns
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 6158

                    For a self defense gun, pre-traveler is a good thing to have.
                    My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                    • #11
                      Safra460
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 306

                      Since I have been shooting mostly wheel guns like the SW460, 686+ and 627PC and all of my JP ARs are installed with 3.5 lbs trigger pull that has no creep. I was expecting similar trigger performance with a good semi-custom 1911.
                      Even my Benelli had trigger job done to lighten the pull and zero creep.
                      Will have to shoot it more to get used to it or PPT and get another SVI instead.
                      Good info and learned something new again.

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                      • #12
                        IPSICK
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4259

                        Originally posted by wfloo
                        Since I have been shooting mostly wheel guns like the SW460, 686+ and 627PC and all of my JP ARs are installed with 3.5 lbs trigger pull that has no creep. I was expecting similar trigger performance with a good semi-custom 1911.
                        Even my Benelli had trigger job done to lighten the pull and zero creep.
                        Will have to shoot it more to get used to it or PPT and get another SVI instead.
                        Good info and learned something new again.
                        Pre-travel is not creep. Think of it as a 2-stage trigger. If you're ever tried an AR Gold, this is what it is supposed to feel like. A very light pre-travel/take-up, followed by a crisp break. Creep is what you would feel on roughly tuned or machined triggers where you notice the sear drag before the trigger breaks.

                        Honestly, you're trigger experience sounds unusual compared to some others' experiences around here. You'll be very disappointed with most of the triggers that other people trudge along with here. A little OT but you would probably be disappointed with Geissele triggers like I was and other triggers on rifles and pistols that everyone else would say are fantastic.
                        "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                        "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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