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  • #61
    Lugiahua
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1576

    Originally posted by bayonet
    I'm just curious, could you stick one of these sheets into a laptop or ipad case like this? No need to save the device from gunfire, but the idea is you can put your computer in a bag or briefcase and maybe stop something or just use the case with device itself. Supposedly, the device can be the backing. Again, I'm not an expert, and I'm just curious. Quick search only revealed a thick steel and bulletproof glass case.

    similar device exists, ballistic clipboard and briefcase...
    usually used by vehicle checkpoint or similar environment to protect user(especially facial area)

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    • #62
      shawmcbigdis
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 79

      Originally posted by Lugiahua
      similar device exists, ballistic clipboard and briefcase...
      usually used by vehicle checkpoint or similar environment to protect user(especially facial area)

      http://www.ballisticclipboard.com/page/page/4955221.htm
      I'm not sure i would say that is similar to a backpack insert. It does use similar materials as part of my panels, but that's it. Mine are custom sized for backpacks, and if you need something lighter than the ballistic fiberglass we have options for that as well.

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      • #63
        shawmcbigdis
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 79

        Originally posted by shawmcbigdis
        I'm not sure i would say that is similar to a backpack insert. It does use similar materials as part of my panels, but that's it. Mine are custom sized for backpacks, and if you need something lighter than the ballistic fiberglass we have options for that as well.
        I would like to explain the differences more so people don't think these are the same exact thing.

        The ballistic fiberglass clipboards that Lugiahua linked to are essentially the same material we use for the fiberglass portion of our panels. However, for ballistic fiberglass to be NIJ IIIA it needs to be about twice as thick as the fiberglass we use (9/16, compared to the 5/16 we use). So therefore it is also twice as heavy. Since the idea of these is that they are always in your backpack, a panel that weighs over 9 pounds (in a 16x12 panel), is not something I want to lug around. Our panel of that size weighs 4.5 pounds. Which isn't exactly light, but hey it will stop a 12 gauge slug with only 1 inch of backspace deformation.

        We do this by using the fiberglass in addition to Kevlar and UHMWPE. And if you don't need the added backspace protection the fiberglass afford, it can be removed, leaving you with a flexible extremely light (about 20 ounces, again at the 16x12 size) NIJ IIIA Kevlar panel. It won't stop a 12 gauge slug, but it will still stop a 44 magnum with about 1.5 inches of backspace.

        And if you want low backspace, but not the weight of the fiberglass we make a semi-rigid panel made of mostly bonded UHMWPE that will stop a 44 Magnum with about 1 inch of backspace, but weighs only 25 ounces).

        And of course, our panels are made in sizes that will fit most any backpack or bag out there, and we can make any custom size you want.

        So yes, there is a similarity in one of the materials we use in one of our products. But really, I think they are substantially different products.

        Take a look for yourself

        www.AtoZArmory.com
        Last edited by shawmcbigdis; 11-08-2012, 2:16 PM.

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        • #64
          The Virus
          Banned
          • May 2011
          • 1135



          Here ya go

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          • #65
            21SF
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 3491

            Just make them for yourself
            SA TRP Half rail, Glock 21SF, Spikes St-15, Ruger Alaskan .44, Saiga 7.62, GSSF Member
            Diablo Rod & Gun Club
            Originally posted by keenkeen
            "What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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            • #66
              Squid
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1041

              I want bullet-proof "fanny pac" to carry in front to shield my Sweet & Sours.

              I figure, with those life wouldn't be worth living anyways. Sorta like when the USAAF did aircraft survivability studies in WW2 and looked not at damage, but at what parts were NEVER damaged in returning planes, because that meant that part needed more protection...but different.

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              • #67
                Cali-Shooter
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2009
                • 9192

                Originally posted by Cuda440
                Will they handle multiple shots from a 338 LM?
                I don't recall the last time those were used in a school shooting. Active shooters have preferred handguns and whatever they could get their hands on (like dad's unlocked gun), with a preference for rapid fire, quick reloading and close range weaponry.
                In Glock We Trust.
                Originally posted by jeep7081
                My wife sleeps better knowing we have a zombie killer... Saiga AK47! Although my neighbor with his AR has restless nights.
                Originally posted by AleksandreCz
                Thank god the Federal Government is there to protect us from the Federal Government
                WTS: Revision 'Desert Locust' tactical Ballistic/Protective eyewear goggles NEW & USED pairs
                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=737563

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                • #68
                  shawmcbigdis
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 79

                  Originally posted by 21SF
                  Just make them for yourself

                  Of course you could, that's how I started this. But how do you know they will work? By testing them of course. I went through about a dozen test panels before I got to a final design. Then I had to have a few more made and destroyed for lab testing, to prove beyond a doubt they they do what I want, and what I claim.

                  So go ahead and spend the time and money to make them yourself, or you can just spend $150 on one of my panels. By comparison to most armor these things really are cheap. and they are verified to do what I am claiming, and I post the test results on my website so that there is no doubt.

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