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  • jdberger
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8944

    Almost Mugged Last Night

    Last night I was walking to my kid's school for a PTA meeting around 6:50PM. It was dark, but the walk is pretty routine for me and close so it's no big deal.

    Anyway, I hear from behind me, "Hey, you got a cig?". I turned around and there were three people in hooded jackets walking about 20 yards behind me. I responded, "No" and kept walking - but now I was paying a little more attention.

    I could hear the guys talking kinda loudly, joking and such, and it seemed like they were gaining on me though I was keeping a pretty good pace. But I'm a pretty good sized guy, not (too old) and I don't project a "victim" aura so I wasn't too concerned.

    I crossed the street to the parallel sidewalk and turned right.

    So did they.

    I was starting to get a little concerned at that point. It's unusual to see three hooded (thuggish) youths in my neighborhood, much less at night. I was cursing myself for not bringing my Surefire light (which I ALWAYS take with me when I go out at night) and I was irritated that I was wearing gloves that would make it difficult to get to my EDC knife. I thought of taking them off, but decided that if there was a scuffle, that my hands were better protected and that I'd be able to hit harder with the gloves on.

    Another 50 yards and I realized that they were still gaining on me so I stepped off the sidewalk into a well lit driveway to let them pass (and so I could keep a better eye on them).

    Tall guy was already in the process of going into the street to get in front of me. Medium guy was lagging behind and Short guy pulled up next to me (about 10 feet away) and asked, "You got a problem?". Though I had suspicions before, now I was 90% sure that they were setting me up.

    I smiled and just replied that they were walking faster than me and that I thought that I'd let them pass.

    Then Tall guy hit me in the head above the right ear. BING! I staggered a little but stayed on my feet as the three rushed me. They were grabbing at me and throwing punches that weren't connecting - I was alternately pushing them away and grabbing at them, trying to keep them bunched up. And I was cursing - at the top of my lungs (mostly things about their relations with their mother and what pussies they were). And I was also backing up toward the modded Prelude in the well lit driveway.

    I slammed my body and my fist into the trunk/whale tail of the Prelude to set off the car alarm. They all let go of me.

    Short and Medium guy took off down the street running. Tall guy stood there looking at me and started to lift up the front of his jacket. I lowered myself to charge him. I didn't see anything in his waistband, but I wasn't sure. I was still yelling (trying to get someone to come out of their house).

    Tall guy's buddies were still running and calling for him so he took off and then I saw that there were 4 guys, not three.

    I stood in the driveway for a minute and saw the guy in the house look out his kitchen window and turn off the car alarm. I waved at him as to say, "Sorry for hitting your car" but he just looked past me (Kitty Genovese, anyone?).

    Then I finished walking to the PTA meeting.

    The blow I took to the head wasn't that bad, the hat I was wearing seemed to absorb most of it. I had a pretty good adrenaline dump, but figured that going home would take me in the same direction that my assailants went, so my best option was to continue on to the school.

    Going home, I walked along a busier and well lit street. Then I called the cops and a couple of hours later then sent an officer to take a report.

    He told me that it was probably a failed robbery and next time to call right away....

    Lessons learned:
    • Carry a flashlight. A good 80 lumen blip would have affected their night vision, it also would have made them easier to identify later. Finally, it makes a good "fist load".
    • If I'm going to carry a knife for self defense (and opening boxes), it's useless unless I can get to it. Having it clipped to my pocket is handy, but in the scuffle, I wasn't able to access it.
    • Learn to manipulate the EDC with gloves on - or don't wear gloves.
    • Call the cops immediately.
    • Be a little more pro-active in calling the cops on suspicious people in my neighborhood.


    Interestingly, I don't think a CCW would have helped in this situation vary much. The whole event went from Yellow to Red so quickly, I wouldn't have had time to employ a handgun. OC would have been a better choice. I can carry it openly in my hand without people freaking out. I'm buying some today. Anyone have recommendations?

    All in all, an interesting learning experience. I'm not going to stop walking in my neighborhood. I'm going to still go out and I'm going to still go out at night. I'm just going to try to be a little more aware of my surroundings and a little more prepared.
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    USN CHIEF
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 11540

    You lucky guy... Good to hear that everything is O.k with you..
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    • #3
      chickenfried
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7160

      Wow glad it turned out all right. Sounds like you handled it pretty well. What was your reason for not calling the police right away?
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      • #4
        vandal
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        • Sep 2007
        • 2860

        Location?

        When he started to lift up his jacket -- that's the time to take him out or at least get off the X. There is nothing good for you under there.

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        • #5
          Hopi
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          • Oct 2005
          • 7700

          Glad to hear that nobody was seriously hurt and great job defending yourself!! Where do you live?

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          • #6
            JamesY
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 2652

            Good to hear nothing happened. I hate those types of people. Too bad you couldn't knock them all out and have the cops wake them up in their cruisers. Smart idea of getting the car alarm to ring out. if it wasn't for that, who knows what could have happened.

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            • #7
              outersquare
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              • Sep 2007
              • 255

              where did this happen
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              • #8
                jdberger
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                • Oct 2005
                • 8944

                This all happened in San Leandro (Wash Manor).
                Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

                90% of winning is simply showing up.

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                • #9
                  Black Majik
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 9695

                  Wow pretty intense story. Glad to hear you came out ok.

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                  • #10
                    jdberger
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8944

                    Originally posted by vandal
                    Location?

                    When he started to lift up his jacket -- that's the time to take him out or at least get off the X. There is nothing good for you under there.
                    True... but the whole thing, start to finish was about 8 seconds.
                    Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

                    90% of winning is simply showing up.

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                    • #11
                      outersquare
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 255

                      i have to say, everyone should be aware, the "victim projection" thing i think is a partial myth.

                      I was jumped and then carjacked in a parking lot by a scrawny punk kid maybe 4 inches smaller than me, sunday afternoon in a suburb shopping center. The whole thing was really dirty, apparently it can happen anywhere to anyone.
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                      • #12
                        Soldier415
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 9537

                        Damn JD, glad to hear you are OK.

                        Good thinking on making as much noise as possible and setting off the car alarm.

                        Being able to recognize those JDLR (Just Don't Look Right) situations is a good trait to have.
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                        • #13
                          bwiese
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27621

                          Glad you're still amongst the vertical.

                          Similar thing happened to my dad in 1969 in San Diego, but went further downhill...

                          He was asked the time, then hauled at knifepoint into the bushes adjoining a building by 3 guys. He was whacked on the back of his neck and had a sore neck for 2 weeks. [Which was already not good from his airplane crash a decade earlier.]

                          THIS WAS ~100FT FROM A SD POLICE STATION IN GOOD AREA.

                          He was held in the bushes for ~1hr - the muggers were worried he was a cop/decoy given my dad's haircut, demeanor, etc. He lost $120 or so (lotta money back then), but the muggers were smart enough not to take his watch.

                          I think pops had a 7.62 PPK (wish he hadn't sold it!) in trunk of rental car, but he'd decided to just walk somewhere for a quick errand - coffee, smokes, whatever...

                          The SD cops were quitet embarassed/apologetic when he reported it.

                          Pops flew back that day (he worked for Cessna). Came home, found out his dad died about the same time he was being mugged. That wasn't a good day.
                          Last edited by bwiese; 01-10-2008, 11:48 AM.

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                          • #14
                            liketoshoot
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                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3810

                            As I don't have a CCW at this time I do carry a Pepper spray. I insist that my wife does also even though she complains about the space it takes in her purse.
                            I like the "RED PEPPER SPRAY" in a .68oz size, it clips on my pocket for easy access.
                            Another good one is Kimber LifeAct Guardian Angel this shoots out further for those standing in the back of the group.
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                            • #15
                              SunriseF150
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                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1791

                              Glad your ok. Maybe you should have pulled your knife out when you noticed they were following you. That way it would be in your hand and ready in case something went down like it did. Of course you don't want them noticing it in your hand. And hopefully you don't have to use it. But 4 on 1, I think it's a fair trade. I use a 5 D-Cell Maglite if I'm in need of some light in certain places that aren't so great, as well as my knife that I carry clipped onto my pocket.
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