Yeah you’re right

[Ishootforblood]

Not worth the time.

[abinsinia]

AOW was $5 I think, not $200.

[abinsinia]

I believe it’s $200 for the Form-1 fee. The transfer tax/stamp is $5.00. So basically, it would cost a regular guy $205.00 in ATF fees to build his own AOW. Buying an AOW from a dealer would cost $5.00 in ATF fees.

I see.. So we could get a good discount now, assuming people wanted an AOW.

[Capybara]

I filed an E Form 1 to convert my AR pistol into an AOW in April. Still waiting on approval. If your brand of AR lower shows up in the ATF list (If you are turning an AR pistol into an AOW), you are good to go. Unfortunately my lower or at least the exact model engraved on it did not show up on the ATF's model list for the brand. So my application is "pending investigation", it can take 90+ days. I already own a Remington 870 AOW I bought from an FFL07/02 in 2012. That was $5.00 for transfer. To "make" an AOW is currently the $200 tax stamp.

I don't see a stampede of Californians wanting AOWs and I don't think the $200 tax stamp to make one is the holdup. It's the fingerprints, photo, paperwork to CLEO, it's a lot of work and a PITA and I am deeply disappointed that we still have to beg the NFA for permission to own an NFA weapon. The good news is, the pundits are saying with the $200 tax now OFF the table, the NFA has become a registry, which is prohibited specifically in the FPA of 1986 so the consensus is now that the NFA no longer exists to collect fees and taxes, there will not be enough resources to do all of the paperwork and approvals, therefore, the NFA will be abolished in as little as a year. The $200 tax was merely an insult but it's the having to beg permission that is massively Unconstitutional. Most Californians don't know anything about the NFA, what an AOW is or why you might want one. Most Californians have a hard enough time just complying and understanding the AWB regs, much less NFA stuff. It's intricate and involved and if you mess up one little thing on your application, ATF will deny it and sometimes they will deny it because the ATF screener is ignorant about California's actual laws.

Abolish the NFA!

[jarhead714]

All your getting with an AR pistol is a forward grip and a OAL restriction.

[Spyder]

with the $200 tax now OFF the table, the NFA has become a registry, which is prohibited specifically in the FPA of 1986 so the consensus is now that the NFA no longer exists to collect fees and taxes, there will not be enough resources to do all of the paperwork and approvals, therefore, the NFA will be abolished in as little as a year.

That's funny.

[Capybara]

All your getting with an AR pistol is a forward grip and a OAL restriction.

You're not getting it. It's been opined by people much more knowledgeable about Commifornia gun laws than I am that having your braced AR pistol registered as an AOW gives you significantly more legal protection than not having your braced pistol as an AOW. AOW status exempts you from California's SBS and SBR restrictions per PC 17710.
I don't care about a forward grip and the process is a PITA. But if it gives you another legal leg to stand on, you have complied with the letter for the law and a good firearms attorney could show a judge and jury that you complied with the law and that the prosecuting DA is going outside the law in trying to prosecute you for having an SBS/SBR in Commifornia.

One can still be railroaded and a DA could still attempt to make an example out of you though.

[Capybara]

That's funny.

If that comes to pass, that would be a very good thing for America, although it would have minimal impact on Californians. SBS/SBR/MGs/Suppressors will still be illegal here, NFA or no NFA.