Buy your ammo now before July 1 hits

[P5Ret]

I give the state $22 a year for my COE.
I order ammo shipped directly to my house and I don't pay any extra tax.
It's a good investment and keeps the state out of knowing anything about my ammunition consumption habits.

I consider the $22 a small price to pay, when I'm buying 4 or more flats of 12 gauge, most years between sporting clays and dove and pheasant season. Not to mention anything else I need. Plus I can usually find it online cheaper than the big box stores or the one LGS around here, if they even have that much.

[enorbit3]

I don't know how many times it's been said: Get your C&R and COE.

this is the CORRECT answer

[mossy]

Glad im finally out of CA.

[omega]

the ammo vendors will probably create another "fake ammo shortage" and raise the prices as usual.

[DCoakley]

Maybe oldskool would like to pay for our backround checks.

[SigSauerP226]

I give the state $22 a year for my COE.
I order ammo shipped directly to my house and I don't pay any extra tax.
It's a good investment and keeps the state out of knowing anything about my ammunition consumption habits.

This is good to know. I had my C&R and COE but didn’t shoot enough to justify the cost over the minimal costs of the local FFL transfer. If I can avoid the stupid *** 11% tax then it will be worth it!

[GOEX FFF]

This guy lol, my boss has a $250,000 annual property tax and he is crying over $4. So, how long you gonna cry about $4 or any other thing in life that is just a part of growing up? Guns are not for everybody...just don't own guns if you can't handle the responsibility or cost of them...so simple... What's chit is people who think they are owed something all the time, champagne tastes on beer budgets. I feel sorry for all the women married/dating whiners and complainers...it really is only $4 more per attempt...buy in bulk. If the fee is causing you that much of an issue then you truly are in the wrong game. Bet that if you owned a business and could make an xtra $4 per sale you would not complain. Everybody has options, it's on you to make the best choice. For me family comes first, then my job...guns are toys (not necessities) and I can accept and live with what Ca gives me or I can reject it and move on. Yes, there are literally tons of guns available already and yes...10 rounds is enough if you know how to use your weapon hint, hint.

Gavin Newscum has just entered the room.

[LuckyGuy]

Wait.....I need to understand the DOJ system in CA. If I buy a gun in CA. and go thru the background check and it comes back it is ok for me to have that gun. But it seems to me, you have to go thru the same check to get a COE. Why don't they just issue you a COE when you are able to buy a gun and ammo??????

[Rotnguns]

This guy lol, my boss has a $250,000 annual property tax and he is crying over $4. So, how long you gonna cry about $4 or any other thing in life that is just a part of growing up? Guns are not for everybody...just don't own guns if you can't handle the responsibility or cost of them...so simple... What's chit is people who think they are owed something all the time, champagne tastes on beer budgets. I feel sorry for all the women married/dating whiners and complainers...it really is only $4 more per attempt...buy in bulk. If the fee is causing you that much of an issue then you truly are in the wrong game. Bet that if you owned a business and could make an xtra $4 per sale you would not complain. Everybody has options, it's on you to make the best choice. For me family comes first, then my job...guns are toys (not necessities) and I can accept and live with what Ca gives me or I can reject it and move on. Yes, there are literally tons of guns available already and yes...10 rounds is enough if you know how to use your weapon hint, hint.

I don't live in California, but there's a matter of principle here. My wife and I are retired multimillionaires, but if I see a quarter on the sidewalk, I stop and pick it up. The government in your state is treating you like the person that lost the quarter in the first place, only they're taking it from you.

[flyer898]

I expect the $22 renewal cost of a COE to go up. It is too good a deal in a state that taxes one six ways from breakfast. My ammunition need is never so urgent that I have to pay this fee; I plan ahead and order online.
By the way, anytime you buy ammo when you are picking up a firearm, there is no additional background check fee.
While we are fighting these unconstitutional laws we must also use every lawful method to get around them.

[The Gleam]

Wait.....I need to understand the DOJ system in CA. If I buy a gun in CA. and go thru the background check and it comes back it is ok for me to have that gun. But it seems to me, you have to go thru the same check to get a COE. Why don't they just issue you a COE when you are able to buy a gun and ammo??????

Technically, it's not a full background check; it's only checking that you're already a gun owner in the AFS system and not prohibited - which just shows that additional gun background checks could also be instantaneous and not require the 10-day waiting period, especially for gun owners already in the AFS system.

Now if you are not already in the AFS system as a gun owner, it is then treated like a full background check at a cost of $19.00, just as if you were buying a gun - and it's still instant, no waiting period.

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[newshooter650]

None of this changes until the leadership of CA changes. That's a long, hard slog. The courts sometimes help us out but the real problem is the politics in this state.

[SigSauerP226]

I don't live in California, but there's a matter of principle here. My wife and I are retired multimillionaires, but if I see a quarter on the sidewalk, I stop and pick it up. The government in your state is treating you like the person that lost the quarter in the first place, only they're taking it from you.

Millionaires don’t get there by giving everyone else their money.

[Rotnguns]

Well, California is at it again, if you can’t ban guns, make ammo super expensive. That will indirectly result in no guns for the good guys.

https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/california-ammo-fee-hike-takes-effect-july-1-as-gun-rights-debate-intensifies

But this tax isn't on components, right? Why don't avid shooters get into reloading, or pool resources with friends and get a few progressive presses?

[P5Ret]

Now if you are not already in the AFS system as a gun owner, it is then treated like a full background check at a cost of $19.00, just as if you were buying a gun - and it's still instant, no waiting period.

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A Basic Check is not instant. I've seen denials come back in hours, but I've never seen an approval that didn't take at least 3-5 days, most were longer.

From DOJ's FAQ.
"The Basic Ammunition Eligibility Check requires the Department to conduct a comprehensive review of its records to determine the person’s eligibility to own or possess ammunition. This eligibility check is similar to a firearms eligibility check and may take days to determine eligibility. For this type of eligibility check, the California Ammunition Vendor will have to provide you with an Ammunition Transaction Number so that you can monitor the status of the eligibility check through the Department’s California Firearms Application Reporting System (CFARS)."