Is Cali successful driving out shooting sport?

[beerman]

From land use restrictions, to taxes, fees and regulations it’s painfully obvious alot of folks can’t afford to shoot anymore . The bump from $1 to $5 in ammo background checks is just the latest of a thousand cuts. 11% excise tax have to be putting gun shops out of business. These pr&@ks are winning. All I can say is I’m glad I reload, but I don’t know how most you guys manage this sport anymore. Just venting, I hate this state’s government.

[Mayor McRifle]

The competitive shooting sports are booming. Virtually every weekend I shoot USPSA or Steel Challenge matches with anywhere from 70 to 120 competitors. The three trap ranges around me are typically crowded, as well.

[BRANSF]

I feel you're spot on. A lot of us have a relative limited number of gun ranges within a reasonable driving distance, are mostly limited to the acquisition of "basic" model guns, even if you have CCW it's very restrictive when you can legally use it, and probably the main factor are the "extra" or new costs you've pointed out. I'm not holding my breath, but hope the new administration has some power to eliminate some of these restrictions.

[CessnaDriver]

The clowns hand over the rope to hang us on outdoor spots. Garbage, starting fires, lobbing rounds over hills. Makes it easy for them to get places shut down. Do other states have this problem too or do we enjoy having extra idiots here?

[TrappedinCalifornia]

The clowns hand over the rope to hang us on outdoor spots. Garbage, starting fires, lobbing rounds over hills. Makes it easy for them to get places shut down. Do other states have this problem too or do we enjoy having extra idiots here?

It depends on the 'other state.'

You're also missing, a lot, in terms of the tactics they use. As an example, someone I know from the north end of the State sent me this... Judge orders stop to Patrick Jones' proposed gun range, rules against Shasta County That's without getting into how they've shut down various, existing ranges (some of them having been open and active for decades) over the years.

Of course, we also do it to ourselves as well. What I was told in conjunction with the story linked is that Jones wants to make his range "lead free ammo" only, despite claims of constructing it in a way which would make recovery far easier and less expensive than other, older ranges. I don't know how true that is, but it's an example of how we get in our own way sometimes.

[Rotnguns]

From land use restrictions, to taxes, fees and regulations it’s painfully obvious alot of folks can’t afford to shoot anymore . The bump from $1 to $5 in ammo background checks is just the latest of a thousand cuts. 11% excise tax have to be putting gun shops out of business. These pr&@ks are winning. All I can say is I’m glad I reload, but I don’t know how most you guys manage this sport anymore. Just venting, I hate this state’s government.

Good heavens. Surely, that fee isn't applied every time you buy ammo down there in Cali?

[SDDAVE56]

Good heavens. Surely, that fee isn't applied every time you buy ammo down there in Cali?

Sure is.

[omega]

the price keeps going up every year to shoot at indoor pistol ranges , use to be $15 then $17 then $20 , now $25 - $30 plus

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Good heavens. Surely, that fee isn't applied every time you buy ammo down there in Cali?

It's part of the death of a thousand cuts others have referenced.

[ThortheDog]

All true, and a broken legal system facilitates it. SCOTUS has left the building. Their GVRs, compounded by the 9th sitting on cases forever, has added years to any resolution. Meanwhile, the anti's keep piling on more restrictions b/c there are no consequences for ignoring the constitutional or black letter law.

[The Gleam]

Lack of voting - has consequences.

So many gun owners complain about the state of things, and rightfully so - but the only time I ever get a response to "Did you vote?" in California of "No, what's the point, not even gonna waste my time" - is from gun owners.

Ironic, no?

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[The Gleam]

Considering the Ammo background check fee, on top of sales tax, on top of the 11% excise tax, in addition to the DROS fee - this would all be easy targets to take to a higher court as illegal taxation disguised as fees or a fraudulent 'special need/emergency' tax. This would be especially true when prior audits showed the DROS fund had accumulated more than ample surplus that Jerry Brown redirected those fund collected by DROS to other purposes, which was never to be the intent. DROS fees were to only ever have been used to fund the operations of the DOJ regarding firearm purchasing, DROS, AFS, and APPS database needs.

They lied. And now the DROS funds are used for any pet agenda they choose.

There should be an audit of all these different illegal taxation schemes, not only to determine how much surplus combined they bring in, but where it's actually going. In most areas of California with an average of a 10% sales tax - on a $1,000 gun, you are actually paying the equivalent of a 24.7% tax. ($247.00) - that is unheard of for any other item in this state except cigarettes, which is roughly 26% to 32% on a pack of cigarettes.

The cigarette tax rate is $0.1435 per cigarette stick. Typically, a pack of cigarettes contains 20 sticks of cigarettes. Using this example, the cigarette tax rate on a pack of 20 cigarettes is $2.87. A pack of cigarettes is about $9.00 to $11.00 before the tax.

https://www.cdtfa.ca.gov/taxes-and-fees/cigarette-and-tobacco-products/

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cigarette-prices-by-state

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[beerman]

I hear ya Gleam, I had to quit shooting at cigarettes a long time ago.😎

[high_revs]

My local range is starting to price me out from using them now that the range cost is $25. I cringe at that price even if it is just my kid shooting and I just watch and observe for safety. It took the wind out of my sails wanting to go when I'm off where I'll just to pickleballing now and get exercise to boot. Still debating i join the trap league this fall with kids schedule making me arrive late and not shooting with my usual peeps.

The excise tax sure killed anything else I want to get and it's just me some trophy 1911s or a super fancy trophy trap gun if I was shooting better.

[AreWeNotMen?]

Good heavens. Surely, that fee isn't applied every time you buy ammo down there in Cali?

Holy Crap - when did that 500% fee increase go in to effect? I did the COE/FFL03 thing last year so I just order ammo online to my door.

But now if I'm going to take a lefty friend shooting, I'll tell them to go buy their own ammo so can see what their idiotic voting got them.