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  • movie zombie
    Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jul 2007
    • 14644

    reading s&w serial numbers

    sometime back on a now not to be found website [at least i can't find it again] i found an explanation as to how to decode the serial number on one's revolver to identify the model number, barrel length, year of manufacture, etc. i have repeatedly tried to find that website again and of course now i can't. anyone know where i can get that info?

    i actually know the model number and barrel length so that part was easy....but i'd like to decode the rest of the serial number.

    movie zombie
    "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
    Originally posted by The Shootist
    Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57159

    Originally posted by movie zombie
    i actually know the model number and barrel length so that part was easy....but i'd like to decode the rest of the serial number.
    The rest of the serial number is, get this, the serial number.

    There are probably lists that will tell you the year it was made, but beyond that, there is not anything else good to be learned by those numbers.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #3
      1911su16b870
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2006
      • 7654

      If any one finds a web link on S&W model numbers/serial numbers for date codes please post it here on calguns. The best I've found is Jim Supica's S&W book which has an appendix which tabulates this info.
      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

      NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
      GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
      Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
      I instruct it if you shoot it.

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      • #4
        movie zombie
        Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jul 2007
        • 14644

        update

        well, i'm beginning to think the website where i read that the serial number could be decoded was spouting erroneous information! folks over at a smith and wesson forum gave me a contact name at s&w.....i just got off the phone with him. he says my s&w 63 is probably late 1970's but he's w/o power right now and can't look it up for me. he also says the 463 in my serial number does not signify 4 inch barrel model 63 [which it is] and that the serial number can't be decoded as was described as i was led to believe.

        movie zombie
        "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
        Originally posted by The Shootist
        Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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        • #5
          golfrj
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 1623

          I believe in the post war revolver section of the S&W Forum FAQ there is a chart showing dates of manufacture by S/N and changes in Models.. Jim

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57159

            Originally posted by movie zombie
            well, i'm beginning to think the website where i read that the serial number could be decoded was spouting erroneous information!
            Exactly.
            The model number is stamped next to the serial number when you have the cylinder open.
            The barrel length is evident when compared to a ruler.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #7
              movie zombie
              Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2007
              • 14644

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Exactly.
              The model number is stamped next to the serial number when you have the cylinder open.
              The barrel length is evident when compared to a ruler.
              not on my model 63. the serial number is located under the grip on the bottom of the metal heel and only visible if i remove the rubber grips which cover the metal heel.

              as stated, i know the barrel length is a 4 inch....i've only been trying to make sense of the serial number and i now know there is nothing to make sense of.

              movie zombie
              "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
              Originally posted by The Shootist
              Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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              • #8
                QuarterBoreGunner
                Administrator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 9389

                See if this helps; S&W revolver serial number info from the 3rd Edition of the Standard Catalog. PDF here.
                /Chris

                I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                Like who?
                Farmers.
                Who else?
                Farmers' mums.

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                • #9
                  1911su16b870
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7654

                  Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                  See if this helps; S&W revolver serial number info from the 3rd Edition of the Standard Catalog. PDF here.
                  Thanks QuaterBoreGunner, that is the exact same appendix in Supica's book.
                  "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                  NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                  GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                  Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                  I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                  • #10
                    QuarterBoreGunner
                    Administrator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 9389

                    Well that's where I scanned it from. I needed it in a handy form for determining the manufacture date for online auctions.
                    /Chris

                    I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                    You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                    Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                    Like who?
                    Farmers.
                    Who else?
                    Farmers' mums.

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                    • #11
                      BigDogatPlay
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 7362

                      The serial number is the serial number. Don't believe Smith ever built any logic into them at all. As far as model numbers, what they stand for and the changes reflected by "dash" numbers there is an online reference at Handloads.com that I've used for ages.

                      When they went to three digit model numbers the first digit generally connoted the metal of the frame; 4 for alloy, 5 for carbon steel, 6 for stainless. The four digit model numbers in semi-autos have some meaning built into them, but that's a whole different saga.

                      FWIW... probably best to just buy Standard Catalog as the wealth of info it provides is worth far more than simply determing a "born on" year. Besides, Jim Supica needs the dough to continue his "research".

                      It's readily available on both Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
                      -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                      Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                      Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                      • #12
                        QuarterBoreGunner
                        Administrator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 9389

                        ^Absolutely, and, all the pictures are in COLOR in this edition. Really cool.
                        /Chris

                        I have a perfect Burning Man attendance record: zero.

                        You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
                        Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                        Like who?
                        Farmers.
                        Who else?
                        Farmers' mums.

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                        • #13
                          JAFGO
                          Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 278

                          Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
                          See if this helps; S&W revolver serial number info from the 3rd Edition of the Standard Catalog. PDF here.
                          VERY COOL! I've got the 3rd edition of SCSW, but having a pdf is very handy! Thank you!

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                          • #14
                            trashman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3824

                            +1000 on the SCSW. One of the authors is a contributor to the S&W Forum. And every time they have one of their auctions...oh man it just hurts to be in California if you're a S&W fan...

                            --Neill

                            see: http://www.armsbid.com/
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