Bolt action AR type rifle

[elk hunter]

If someone were to use a AR type lower and install a bolt action upper onto it would the rifle still be a AR or would it be a legal bolt action rifle? Of course I'm referring to California’s opinion/legal opinion of this. It seems to me that to be a assault weapon as defined by California it has to be semiautomatic "but" does the lower being a semi automatic lower still make the upper a assault weapon according to the California law? I would assume magazine restrictions to 10 rounds would also apply but what about a flash suppressor? legal or no?
I've tried to study these question by reading and re-reading the info i can find and to me its simply not clearly defined. Is a lawyer needed to get a clear answer?
It's a shame that people are forced to question every tiny detail to try and stay inside of the law.
Regards
EH

[2shotjoe]

follow the flow chart.

https://www.calguns.net/forum/general-discussion/general-gun-discussions/54400142-current-aw-flow-chart

[splithoof]

My understanding as this applies to me:
If I take my Colt AR-15 lower receiver (as it is a RAW under the first evolution of Roberti-Roos fiasco) and swap out the original factory upper with a bolt-action upper of another make, it is REMAINS a RAW, because it is one of the “named” weapons, and as such all associated restrictions remain in place for compliance.

if I take my other AR-15 (non-registered because it is fixed magazine), and replace the upper with a manually operated mechanism, I can at that point go about my business with it as I would with any other manually operated weapon, and remove the magazine lock mechanism.

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

Bolt action is bolt action period. other than banned by name lowers bolt action rules would be the same as a bolt action get where I am going here.............. I am not a lawyer and this not legal advice but my opinion and interpretation of the law as written.

[TKM]

My bolt action AR is a RAW. 50bmg.

[OlderThanDirt]

My bolt action AR is a RAW. 50bmg.

I went with 416 Barrett to get around that little problem.

[Sailormilan2]

IMHO, such a rifle would NOT be considered an Assault Weapon. First of all, the Law requires it to be a semi automatic to be an AW.
The Law says that if an “AW” is separated into 2 separate parts, it is NOT an AW. Also, if anything is missing that is necessary for the function of an AW, then it is NOT an AW. A bolt action would be missing the gas block and gas tube. The gas tube is specifically mentioned as a part necessary to the function of an AW.
Now, if it(the lower) is named per Roberti Roose, I would still say No. But I could be wrong. Again you run into the requirement to be functional.

Section “hh” would be the appropriate section.

https://search.app/BgyaGaxqc8bYuNeNA

[ar15barrels]

If someone were to use a AR type lower and install a bolt action upper onto it would the rifle still be a AR or would it be a legal bolt action rifle? Of course I'm referring to California’s opinion/legal opinion of this. It seems to me that to be a assault weapon as defined by California it has to be semiautomatic "but" does the lower being a semi automatic lower still make the upper a assault weapon according to the California law? I would assume magazine restrictions to 10 rounds would also apply but what about a flash suppressor? legal or no?
I've tried to study these question by reading and re-reading the info i can find and to me its simply not clearly defined. Is a lawyer needed to get a clear answer?
It's a shame that people are forced to question every tiny detail to try and stay inside of the law.
Regards
EH

An assault weapon designated by "features" requires the firearm to be semi-auto.
An assault weapon designated by make/model or by chambering or by registration does not require the firearm to be semi-auto.

[elk hunter]

Thanks for the input. As I understand it they must first be a semi-auto to be a assault rifle then add other things.
My plan was to use a Anderson lower I put together for my 7.62x39 upper, yep it works very well. I wanted to use that lower with a bolt action upper in the same caliber or maybe a 350 Legend with 18 inch barrel, 10 round magazines and maybe a muzzle brake not decided on that one yet. Larger magazines don't do much for me and my use for this modular brake down capable hunting rifle. I'm very much a person that favors something that can do more than one thing, I really like combination guns and drillings for the utility. Again thanks for the input. It might be a good reason to take the 80% lower that was given to me and mill it out for this project.
Regards

[Sailormilan2]

Thanks for the input. As I understand it they must first be a semi-auto to be a assault rifle then add other things.
My plan was to use a Anderson lower I put together for my 7.62x39 upper, yep it works very well. I wanted to use that lower with a bolt action upper in the same caliber or maybe a 350 Legend with 18 inch barrel, 10 round magazines and maybe a muzzle brake not decided on that one yet. Larger magazines don't do much for me and my use for this modular brake down capable hunting rifle. I'm very much a person that favors something that can do more than one thing, I really like combination guns and drillings for the utility. Again thanks for the input. It might be a good reason to take the 80% lower that was given to me and mill it out for this project.
Regards

I’m not sure you can use, or even own, an 80% lower in CA anymore. I normally buy a stripped, fully finished lower, especially when it’s on sale, and go from there. The problem with this idea is that it now costs about $100 to register it. That’s in addition to the cost of the lower.
One used to be able to do multiple lowers on one registration form. Having just gone through this, that is no longer the case. Costing much more money.

[elk hunter]

I’m not sure you can use, or even own, an 80% lower in CA anymore. I normally buy a stripped, fully finished lower, especially when it’s on sale, and go from there. The problem with this idea is that it now costs about $100 to register it. That’s in addition to the cost of the lower.
One used to be able to do multiple lowers on one registration form. Having just gone through this, that is no longer the case. Costing much more money.

Honestly I don't know if they are legal in California or not I do know they are legal here in Idaho. I didn't see the Anderson name in any of the assault weapon stuff I've read so maybe I could use my original plan and stay out of trouble. Since leaving California I have never paid to register any firearms of any kind. I'm sure if I buy a silencer or machine gun that will change, a nice Thompson would be fun.

[ar15barrels]

Honestly I don't know if they are legal in California or not I do know they are legal here in Idaho. I didn't see the Anderson name in any of the assault weapon stuff I've read so maybe I could use my original plan and stay out of trouble. Since leaving California I have never paid to register any firearms of any kind. I'm sure if I buy a silencer or machine gun that will change, a nice Thompson would be fun.

Next time you start a thread asking if something is legal, be sure to include the state that you live in as the answers you will get will be very different.
You specifically asked about California law, so those are the responses you have been getting.
There are several different sets of laws at play.
80% has nothing to do with the assault weapons laws.
80% firearms is a whole different set of laws.

You can build a bolt action with any un-named receiver in California.
You can not possess an un-completed or un-registered completed 80% receiver in California regardless of it being for a semi-auto or a non-semi-auto.
You can complete an 80% receiver in Idaho.
Just do not bring it into California.

If you want to bring this gun into California, use an Anderson receiver.