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  • S.A.
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1519

    ATF 922r restrictions on Beretta 1301

    Existing store stock exempt. New 1301’s will be 5+1 capacity.

    Read about the impact of the ATF regulations on Beretta temporarily pausing the production of 1301 Tactical with a 7+1 round capacity.
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    L84CABO
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 8475

    Thanks for posting that. I had not heard about this.

    It's all so stupid of course. One of the pluses the 1301 had going for it is that it had avoided the 922R stupidity (compared to the Benelli m4) but obviously that is in question now. It will be interesting to see if Beretta can get this worked out. It sucks spending that much money for a gun and then you have to turn around and drop another few hundred bucks to fix the neutered mag tube and comply with a bullcrap law. Hopefully Beretta can solve this.
    "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

    Fighter Pilot

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      BrokerB
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5009

      FJB and his treasonous crew. "Non-"Sporting".....umm.. this is exactly what the 2A is made for..non Sporting removal of treason.
      Beans and Bullets

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        PogoJack
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2120

        Of giving advice, but I heard that 922r was for the dealers and did not apply to the owners. Don’t know case law or anything like that.
        "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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        • #5
          naz
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 3104

          Originally posted by L84CABO
          Thanks for posting that. I had not heard about this.

          It's all so stupid of course. One of the pluses the 1301 had going for it is that it had avoided the 922R stupidity (compared to the Benelli m4) but obviously that is in question now. It will be interesting to see if Beretta can get this worked out. It sucks spending that much money for a gun and then you have to turn around and drop another few hundred bucks to fix the neutered mag tube and comply with a bullcrap law. Hopefully Beretta can solve this.
          Agreed it’s a BS rule

          7+1 is still lesser than desired for common gun games so my guess is most new owners were still buying new tubes anyway, before this regulation

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          • #6
            L84CABO
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2009
            • 8475

            Originally posted by PogoJack
            Of giving advice, but I heard that 922r was for the dealers and did not apply to the owners. Don’t know case law or anything like that.
            ^^^^ There are two camps on 922r...those that think it only applies to dealers and those that don't. Here's my logic...

            There have been numerous letters posted to the interwebz where INDIVIDUALS have written and asked the ATF for guidance on 922r as it relates to replacing parts on the Benelli m4. Specifically most people ask about swapping out the factory mag tube for a longer domestic produced tube. The ATF has responded and advised them of the 13 named parts and the need to replace two additional named parts, besides the mag tube, for a total of 3 named parts, in order to keep the gun 922r legal.

            Thus I would argue that the ATF clearly believes 922r applies to individuals and not just dealers.

            It's been years since I went through this when I was mod'ing my m4 but the letters were easy to find back then. I assume they are still out there and accessible, since the interwebz is forever. But anyone can write a letter to the ATF and ask them for clarification on this. So don't take my word for it as I'm just some guy on the internet. YMMV.

            Now with the above said, there does NOT seem to be an abundant of court cases on this issue. I remember there was definitely one case of a person being charged on this, back in the day. But it seemed to be a "tack on charge." Meaning the dude was arrested and charged with a number of other, more serious crimes and, it seemed, like they added this to the pile because they could. There does not seem to be that many people charged for just 922r violations.
            "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

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