01/22 Trigger Pack

[Wojtek]

Figured you guys might like to see this, the 01/22 Trigger Pack. A single shot trigger pack for the 10/22

Will have my Chargers revamped and ready to roll with these new packs shortly.

[yacko]

Theres a diy mod on rimfire central for that.

It's only useful for free staters with a can.

[Wojtek]

Theres a diy mod on rimfire central for that.

It's only useful for free staters with a can.

No there isn't and no it isn't. Not even the same thing.

[Quiet]

In order to be CA legal on a semi-auto 10/22 style pistol, the pistol will need to have a fixed 10 or less round magazine that cannot be removed without disassembling the firearm's action.

Since 01-01-2000, a semiautomatic firearm that has been non-permanently modified into a non-semiautomatic repeating firearm can be considered a "broken" semiautomatic firearm due to all of the parts required to make it operate as a semiautomatic still being on the firearm.

[Wojtek]

In order to be CA legal on a semi-auto 10/22 style pistol, the pistol will need to have a fixed 10 or less round magazine that cannot be removed without disassembling the firearm's action.

Since 01-01-2000, a semiautomatic firearm that has been non-permanently modified into a non-semiautomatic repeating firearm can be considered a "broken" semiautomatic firearm due to all of the parts required to make it operate as a semiautomatic still being on the firearm.

[Quiet]

Non-semiautomatic single-shot firearms and non-semiautomatic repeating firearms are a thing.

A single-shot firearm does not have a magazine capacity and a single cartridge is loaded/unloaded directly into the firearm's chamber.
A repeating firearm has a fixed magazine capacity of 1+ rounds or it can use detachable magazines and a cartridge can be loaded from the firearm's ammunition feeding device into the firearm's chamber.

A firearm operates with a break-open action or bolt-action or lever-action or pump-action or semiautomatic action or non-semiautomatic action.

A non-semiautomatic action is an action that could operate as a semiautomatic action but is made in a manner that prevents the semiautomatic operation from being completed. Such as the bolt/slide locks open/stops before it loads a cartridge from an ammunition feeding device into the firearm's chamber.

Using virgin receivers, some FFL manufacturers have successfully made and got non-semiautomatic single-shot pistols listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. On those on-Roster non-semiautomatic pistols, when they are modified to use an ammunition feeding device, they become off-Roster semiautomatic pistols.

If a non-semiautomatic firearm still operates as a non-semiautomatic when it has an ammunition feeding device, then it is considered a non-semiautomatic repeating firearm.

During the 1990s, the UK firearm industry created devices that made semiautomatic firearms into non-semiautomatic firearms by causing the action to lock open after every round is discharged. These modified firearms became non-semiautomatic repeating firearms under UK laws.
In 2000, CA DOJ determined that these devices did not legally make a semiautomatic firearm into a non-semiautomatic firearm unless the semiautomatic parts (gas tube/piston) were also removed from the firearm or permanently disabled (gas block welded/plugged closed).

There has been past CA criminal case that resulted in the felony conviction for the possession of a "broken" assault weapon, which was a semi-auto centerfire rifle with prohibited features (pistol grip, flash suppressor) that was temporarily modified into a non-semiautomatic firearm with the parts to make it semiautomatic stored nearby the firearm.

Depending on how the non-semiautomatic pistol operates, if it has a non-fixed ammunition feeding device outside of the pistol's grip, then it can be considered a "broken" assault weapon. If the action locks back after every round is discharged and holding down the slide/bolt release will allow it to operate as a semiautomatic, then it would be considered a semiautomatic or "broken" semiautomatic, since its default operation momentarily halts the semiautomatic function. A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine and accepts detachable magazines outside of the pistol's grip is an assault weapon.

So, the 01/22 trigger pack installed on a 10/22 style pistol that does not have a fixed magazine could be considered a "broken" assault weapon, because it can be made to operate as a semiautomatic and it is a pistol that does not a fixed magazine with restricted features.

[Wojtek]

Non-semiautomatic single-shot firearms and non-semiautomatic repeating firearms are a thing.

A single-shot firearm does not have a magazine capacity and a single cartridge is loaded/unloaded directly into the firearm's chamber.
A repeating firearm has a fixed magazine capacity of 1+ rounds or it can use detachable magazines and a cartridge can be loaded from the firearm's ammunition feeding device into the firearm's chamber.

A firearm operates with a break-open action or bolt-action or lever-action or pump-action or semiautomatic action or non-semiautomatic action.

A non-semiautomatic action is an action that could operate as a semiautomatic action but is made in a manner that prevents the semiautomatic operation from being completed. Such as the bolt/slide locks open/stops before it loads a cartridge from an ammunition feeding device into the firearm's chamber.

Using virgin receivers, some FFL manufacturers have successfully made and got non-semiautomatic single-shot pistols listed on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. On those on-Roster non-semiautomatic pistols, when they are modified to use an ammunition feeding device, they become off-Roster semiautomatic pistols.

If a non-semiautomatic firearm still operates as a non-semiautomatic when it has an ammunition feeding device, then it is considered a non-semiautomatic repeating firearm.

During the 1990s, the UK firearm industry created devices that made semiautomatic firearms into non-semiautomatic firearms by causing the action to lock open after every round is discharged. These modified firearms became non-semiautomatic repeating firearms under UK laws.
In 2000, CA DOJ determined that these devices did not legally make a semiautomatic firearm into a non-semiautomatic firearm unless the semiautomatic parts (gas tube/piston) were also removed from the firearm or permanently disabled (gas block welded/plugged closed).

There has been past CA criminal case that resulted in the felony conviction for the possession of a "broken" assault weapon, which was a semi-auto centerfire rifle with prohibited features (pistol grip, flash suppressor) that was temporarily modified into a non-semiautomatic firearm with the parts to make it semiautomatic stored nearby the firearm.

Depending on how the non-semiautomatic pistol operates, if it has a non-fixed ammunition feeding device outside of the pistol's grip, then it can be considered a "broken" assault weapon. If the action locks back after every round is discharged and holding down the slide/bolt release will allow it to operate as a semiautomatic, then it would be considered a semiautomatic or "broken" semiautomatic, since its default operation momentarily halts the semiautomatic function. A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine and accepts detachable magazines outside of the pistol's grip is an assault weapon.

So, the 01/22 trigger pack installed on a 10/22 style pistol that does not have a fixed magazine could be considered a "broken" assault weapon, because it can be made to operate as a semiautomatic and it is a pistol that does not a fixed magazine with restricted features.

[MyOdessa]

Solution in search of a problem.
I don't see any point to it and would never spend any money on it.

[Wojtek]

Solution in search of a problem.
I don't see any point to it and would never spend any money on it.

Well dang. I guess it is no small miracle that I haven't based my business ventures on any of your whims then.

[ar15barrels]

A non-semiautomatic action is an action that could operate as a semiautomatic action but is made in a manner that prevents the semiautomatic operation from being completed.

Where is CA's specific legal definition above located so I can go read the full text?

[Wojtek]

Where is CA's specific legal definition above located so I can go read the full text?

Good to see you, Randall.

I too am curious.

[jeremiah12]

https://volquartsen.com/products/128...eiver-and-bolt

This is a true bolt action. Since the magazine is outside the pistol grip, you still have to be concerned about AW laws. Which is also the problem with charger clone with the 1/22 trigger. You have to make a device that does not allow the magazine to drop until you open the action (difficult to do) or design a stock with the pistol grip moved forward to the mag well.

Or, completely block off the magwell permanently and feed ammo, 1 bullet at a time through the bolt. I would do this because it is the safest. I would make a pistol stock with no magwell to be ultra safe.

The better way is for an 07 to manufacture a charger clone with these receivers and get them placed on the CA roster. Then, if some one wishes to change the stock so they can use magazines, they can. This activity seems to be ignored by the DOJ. They seem to not want to get a ruling on this, likely due to knowing they will lose. The only other thing needed would be a device that would not allow the mag to drop free until the action was opened.

Personally, I am close to retirement and moving out of CA, so I will not purchase any more firearms until I move out of state. Until then, if I really wanted a Charger, I would buy the receiver and keep it with me. I would send all the other parts to my son to hold for me. When i visit him, I would assemble it and shoot it. I would break it down and keep the reciever with me and he will store the parts.