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  • Svashtar
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 936

    Paranoia Strikes Deep - I think I Made a Mistake (?)

    I've been debugging a communications issue with my alarm panel for the last two days, speaking with different techs each more senior than the last. I won't mention the alarm company, but it's a big well-known one that's nationwide. Today I got the most senior tech guy who described an alarm transformer I'm supposed to have plugged into an outlet in the garage according to their records. The thing is, I know my garage / shop / reloading area including every outlet, but he insisted it was there; when I told him I had checked multiple times and that the panel must be hard wired (which he said was impossible), he asked me to activate my camera so he could view each outlet in turn, assuming I'm too dumb to recognize a transformer plugged into one of only five garage wall outlets (and two overhead for openers) I have. So, I proved to him that I AM dumb by giving him access to the camera, and walking through the garage.

    The thing is, I have two benches with presses on them, a pile of brass in a tray next to an annealer, a rack with Dillon toolheads mounted, some powders on a shelf, and third smaller bench for brass prep, with .30 and .50 ammo cans under them, a gun safe, and other gun related posters and tin signs (Winchester, Colt, etc.). Worse to some people now, I have a battle flag on the back wall that up until 2013 or so was flying over Raleigh, NC, but that's just my people from 160 years ago and I'm not flying it outside and BTW am not hating on anyone.

    After about 3 minutes of showing him wall electrical outlets, but having to walk from one side of the garage to the other while trying to keep the camera focused on the outlets, I had the good sense to shut off the camera access when it was clear the transformer box he was looking for wasn't there. But then he wanted me to turn it back on and check every outlet in the house both upstairs and downstairs, which I declined, as I'm not going to let him see the small safe in the den, the muzzleloaders hanging on the wall upstairs, the 12 gauge behind the door next to an outlet, etc., etc.

    I'm only pointing out that I think I made a mistake, and have seen people swatted or at least visited by the cops for less, but again may be being paranoid over nothing. I hope that's the case, and he's forgotten about it. Hopefully he was just a tech trying to help, but I don't trust anyone anymore, and wouldn't be surprised to learn that they look for anything they can report to the authorities, especially if the person viewing is an anti-gun, anti-self-defense, victim disarmament loon. I get reporting clearly criminal activity you might see occurring in the background in such a case, but to some people simply owning a firearm or ammo makes you a criminal. FWIW, thanks.
    Last edited by Svashtar; 06-12-2024, 4:02 AM.
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    chrisw
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    • Jul 2009
    • 861

    Dibs?
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      naz
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        ar15barrels
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        • Jan 2006
        • 56906

        Originally posted by Svashtar
        I've been debugging a communications issue with my alarm panel for the last two days, speaking with three different techs each more senior than the last.
        What stated this whole process of you even thinking there was a communications issue?
        Did your panel tell you so and then you contacted the alarm company or did someone contact you, claiming to work for the alarm company?
        Because if this all started by someone contacting YOU, but your alarm panel was not telling you there's a problem, then you have likely fallen for scammers.
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          12pewpew
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          • Nov 2019
          • 1283

          I would delete this thread and deactivate your membership immediately. They're on to you.

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          • #6
            Svashtar
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2017
            • 936

            Originally posted by chrisw
            Dibs?
            ? Sure, you bet.
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              Svashtar
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              • Apr 2017
              • 936

              Originally posted by ar15barrels

              What stated this whole process of you even thinking there was a communications issue?
              Did your panel tell you so and then you contacted the alarm company or did someone contact you, claiming to work for the alarm company?
              Because if this all started by someone contacting YOU, but your alarm panel was not telling you there's a problem, then you have likely fallen for scammers.
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              • #8
                Svashtar
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                • Apr 2017
                • 936

                Originally posted by 12pewpew
                I would delete this thread and deactivate your membership immediately. They're on to you.
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                  Svashtar
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                  • Apr 2017
                  • 936

                  Good advice, thanks. I do have the presses covered and the safe on the back wall not in line of sight, and only open the door a few times a year, but there are a couple improvements I could make. ?
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                  • #10
                    CCrawford
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 497

                    Is there a transformer in the alarm box where the battery is? Any status lights/LEDs in alarm box/circuit board that are displaying an error?

                    Does it use a landline or cellular for communication? If landline, do you use it too and is the audio clear on it? If cellular, any new electronics near box or antenna? Any damage to coax leading from box to antenna?

                    I believe alarm techs are licensed in CA and I would think it's doubtful that some reloading stuff would be a big concern. Now if you had a grow house going, that may be an issue (or not). As someone who's past job had me in homes with no notice, I can assure you he has probably seen much worse and illegal stuff out there.

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                      Svashtar
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 936

                      Originally posted by CCrawford
                      Is there a transformer in the alarm box where the battery is? Any status lights/LEDs in alarm box/circuit board that are displaying an error?

                      Does it use a landline or cellular for communication? If landline, do you use it too and is the audio clear on it? If cellular, any new electronics near box or antenna? Any damage to coax leading from box to antenna?

                      I believe alarm techs are licensed in CA and I would think it's doubtful that some reloading stuff would be a big concern. Now if you had a grow house going, that may be an issue (or not). As someone who's past job had me in homes with no notice, I can assure you he has probably seen much worse and illegal stuff out there.
                      Could be in the box with the battery and I'm not recognizing it, but only circuit boards in there that I can see. It just wasn't communicating with the mobile app or their system. The alarm would ring, but wouldn't connect to the monitoring I'm paying for each month. Killing the power AND the battery back up reset everything OK.

                      The panel has a power wire going into the back from the original hard-wired system, and I don't think this guy is familiar with that, now that 99% of all systems are wireless. It's an old wired system that's been upgraded with wireless window, motion and glass break sensors. I'm still not sure why he was so insistent on looking through the entire house to find something I know isn't plugged in anywhere.

                      I think you're right about it not being a big deal to him and his probably seeing much worse. Right now no women in cages in my garage, or tables covered with powder and cash ?, but I know some people who think a rifle or ammo in sight is even worse! ?
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                      • #12
                        Svashtar
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 936

                        Dupe post.
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                        • #13
                          WOODY2
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                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1310

                          I agree, that being said it's a beach when one has to worry about others viewing the contents in ones home

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56906

                            Context in the first post goes a long way...
                            For all I knew, you got a call from tech support about this supposed "problem" and they are asking you to see what's in your house and you are showing them.
                            Can you see low the lack of context could make people other than yourself who only know what they read in the first post think the same way?
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                              OlderThanDirt
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                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5646

                              Since your alarm panel most likely runs on 12v, it's quite possible that your transformer is located behind a switch plate or hidden where you normally won't see it. Incoming power at the panel should be fairly obvious, and then tracking where that wire goes shouldn't be that difficult. It's also possible that some knucklehead ran a wire from your house doorbell transformer to your alarm panel. My house was prewired for an alarm system during construction and the transformer is in the attic. I have seen configurations from an external unit plugged into an outlet, transformers in the attic or garage, and in one case the fookers put it in the wall with no access.
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