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  • #2
    SlowDrifter
    Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 236

    I've tried several types and found they can't replace a range zero, which will still be needed anyway. Just get your new scope to mechanical zero, do a return to zero test at short range, then finding the zero you want will be easy. Just how I do it, take it or leave it.

    Safe shooting tight groups,

    SD

    Edited to add: I've tried one very similar to the one you linked with less than stellar results.
    Last edited by SlowDrifter; 06-02-2024, 7:13 AM.
    "I have no idea what WW-III will be fought with, but WW-IV will be fought with sticks and stones.". A. Einstein

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    • #3
      ar15robert
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2002
      • 2512

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      • #4
        ptmn
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 789

        They are awesome...if used for what they were made for. Like SlowDrifter stated above, they are not a replacement for an actual range zero.

        What they were made for and what they are great at, is getting you on paper, so you can zero efficiently. This comes into effect when an optic or sight is off so bad, that when you are zeroing the weapon, you don't know what adjustment to make because the round impact is off target paper completely.

        If you have a buddy, he can spot the off target splash and direct you on to paper...unless you are at a packed public range with guys shooting on your left and right, which makes it harder to spot the off paper splash as your round.

        This is where the value of the bore sighter comes to play. You don't have a buddy to spot and/or you're at a packed public range. With the bore sighter and proper technique, you should be on paper for your first round, so zeroing adjustments are fast and easy.

        Do you need one? Not really. You can start your zero at 25 yards first, then when you move to 100 yards you will already be on paper. Laser bore sighters have their place, especially when zeroing offset bore lasers like the PEQ-15 or LA-5, but I'm 3 years retired and will never run those types of sights on my personal rifles. Instead, I'm cheap and lazy, so I use a laser bore sighter so I can start my zeroing at 100 yards, which saves time and more importantly expensive rounds

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        • #5
          DEVOREGUNNER
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 428

          Originally posted by ptmn
          They are awesome...if used for what they were made for. Like SlowDrifter stated above, they are not a replacement for an actual range zero.

          What they were made for and what they are great at, is getting you on paper, so you can zero efficiently. This comes into effect when an optic or sight is off so bad, that when you are zeroing the weapon, you don't know what adjustment to make because the round impact is off target paper completely.

          If you have a buddy, he can spot the off target splash and direct you on to paper...unless you are at a packed public range with guys shooting on your left and right, which makes it harder to spot the off paper splash as your round.

          This is where the value of the bore sighter comes to play. You don't have a buddy to spot and/or you're at a packed public range. With the bore sighter and proper technique, you should be on paper for your first round, so zeroing adjustments are fast and easy.

          Do you need one? Not really. You can start your zero at 25 yards first, then when you move to 100 yards you will already be on paper. Laser bore sighters have their place, especially when zeroing offset bore lasers like the PEQ-15 or LA-5, but I'm 3 years retired and will never run those types of sights on my personal rifles. Instead, I'm cheap and lazy, so I use a laser bore sighter so I can start my zeroing at 100 yards, which saves time and more importantly expensive rounds
          THIS^^^^^^^ Agree totally..

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          • #6
            Scotty
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 1987

            Boresighters are almost useless. Just set a large piece of paper with at 10 yards. Fire a shot into the middle. Dial in an adjustment to get it roughly slightly low of center. Fire another shot to make sure you didn't dial it the wrong way. Then you can move the target out to further distances.

            What I do use boresighters is to change optics. With the rifle clamped down. Check where the boresight is relative you your current optic. Swap out the optic and set the zero accordingly.

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            • #7
              emil77
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 981

              Thanks for the great info y'all!
              Thanks,
              Emil

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              • #8
                divingin
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 2522

                Boresighting only gets you close. You can do this without accessories by reducing the range you're shooting at or by matching the view through the barrel to the sight/scope/whatever you use to aim with.

                Actual zero comes down to tweaking your sights to how you , the ammo, and the rifle perform.

                As far as is the laser boresight kit worth it, that depends on how much spending money on stuff you don't use much bothers you.

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                • #9
                  high_revs
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7806

                  minimizes walking it. i did struggle when i was at sac valley since i cna't remember where my 5r was zeroed. i thought it was 200 but for the life of me, i couldn't hit the big azz shoot-n-c circle i bought from them at 150 or 200. i bought a .308 laser bore sight but haven't made my way to the range and sitting on my desk for months. unsure if i can even see it in daylight (the laser light)

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                  • #10
                    67Cuda
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1717

                    Save your money for something else.
                    Originally posted by ivanimal
                    People that call other member stupid get time off.
                    So much for being honest.

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                    • #11
                      naz
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 3108

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                      • #12
                        Bunnysloper
                        Member
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 313

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                        • #13
                          rsrocket1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2769

                          I have the Strong Tools Laser Bore Sighter. All the arbors come in a little plastic bag so the box is quite a bit smaller. It is worth it if you cannot bore sight through the barrel of a bolt rifle. It does not put you on the bullseye but it will certainly put you on paper where you can then zero with bullets using the real sights.

                          I used to waste ammo trying to get the first shots on paper at 100 yards when the shots were not hitting the target. With the boresight I can get a group on paper, adjust the sights or scope to the center of the group and be done without hunting for where the first shots went. Same goes for handgun open sights and red dots. At 10-25 yards your sights can be set up at home and you only need a couple of clicks at the range to zero your gun.

                          The other method is to shoot at a very close range, then move the target back. Works well at indoor ranges but wastes time at an outdoor organized range where you have to wait for ceasefires.

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                          • #14
                            C.G.
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 8247

                            I agree with the "useless" comments, but if you do get one get the green one I could not see the red one during daylight.
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