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  • #31
    Hopi
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7700

    Remember, suppressors don't need to be made from welded metal. If I understand correctly, it is currently illegal to suppress a firearm with a blanket over the barrel. There are also ways to quietly discharge a firearm without a suppressor, using your 'target' as the baffle....

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    • #32
      5968
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 3557

      I would say about 25%; however if no tax stamp was involved it would be 100%. I wouldn't use them to look cool. I would use them because I can hardly hear now.
      sigpicIf you loan someone twenty dollars and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
      Originally posted by hoffmang
      NFA is a long ways off as well it should be. Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...-Gene

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      • #33
        shonc99
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 552

        Originally posted by mothergreen
        it don't have to be pretty to function. a pipe some scrap metal and knowing how to weld
        While a crude expansion chamber type supressor with large baffles would be easy to fabricate, the larger the tolerances, the less supression achieved. Alignment is also a critical factor. Having a rifle bullet strike a baffle 2 feet in front of your face at 3000 fps does not sound like something I would like to experience.

        It seems the easiest way to make a supressor is with a lathe. Everything stays centered and you can make the tube, baffles, end pieces and thread everything as needed. No need to weld.
        Originally posted by randy
        I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.
        Originally posted by Walter Sobchak
        "Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't fn'g ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as sh[t DON"T FN'G ROLL!!"

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        • #34
          Hopi
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7700

          Originally posted by shonc99
          While a crude expansion chamber type supressor with large baffles would be easy to fabricate, the larger the tolerances, the less supression achieved. Alignment is also a critical factor. Having a rifle bullet strike a baffle 2 feet in front of your face at 3000 fps does not sound like something I would like to experience.

          It seems the easiest way to make a supressor is with a lathe. Everything stays centered and you can make the tube, baffles, end pieces and thread everything as needed. No need to weld.
          Passage from a great book:

          The Amnesty was going to allow registration of silencers without having to pay the tax, during the one month 'window'. That was why Henry was spending a great deal of time cutting and putting serial numbers
          on various diameters and lengths of stainless steel aircraft tubing. He had decided that fifty would probably suffice for a lifetime supply, given his high-volume shooting habits. The outer tubes were what was
          important. He could make the internals up later, as they were needed.
          Stainless steel was a lot harder to cut than mild steel, and Henry was soon sweating again. Christ! Henry said to himself. Cutting off pieces of aircraft tubing and stamping numbers on them all weekend 'cause it's
          the only time when you don't have to pay the Feds two hundred bucks for each one.

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          • #35
            RANGER295
            Administrator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Sep 2006
            • 4002

            "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            ~Ben Franklin

            159

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            • #36
              gose
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3953

              My guesstimate, 0%.

              I didn't get any when I could, and nothing has really changed since then, nope, not for me.
              With Oden on our side.

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              • #37
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57144

                I voted 25% because I have a lot of handguns and many of them would be either un-wieldy with a can, or would be very difficult to fit a can.
                Most of the rifles would end up being threaded though.

                Of course I would end up with a few integrally supressed 22's as well as a few cans that would cover most of the rifles.
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 01-03-2008, 10:57 PM.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #38
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57144

                  Originally posted by Hopi
                  Passage from a great book:

                  The Amnesty was going to allow registration of silencers without having to pay the tax, during the one month 'window'. That was why Henry was spending a great deal of time cutting and putting serial numbers
                  on various diameters and lengths of stainless steel aircraft tubing. He had decided that fifty would probably suffice for a lifetime supply, given his high-volume shooting habits. The outer tubes were what was
                  important. He could make the internals up later, as they were needed.
                  Stainless steel was a lot harder to cut than mild steel, and Henry was soon sweating again. Christ! Henry said to himself. Cutting off pieces of aircraft tubing and stamping numbers on them all weekend 'cause it's
                  the only time when you don't have to pay the Feds two hundred bucks for each one.
                  I have that book.
                  It's even signed for me by John Ross at Knob Creek several years back.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #39
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57144

                    Originally posted by M. Sage
                    I was under the impression that only the silencer needed the tax stamp.
                    That's correct.

                    Most of my customers start with a 1/2-28 threaded 223 rated can.
                    They can use it on their AR's and on their 22's.
                    Then you get either a 9mm or a rimfire can.
                    The rimfire cans are lighter weight, but won't handle a 223...

                    You can handle many situations very well with about 5 cans total.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #40
                      NSR500
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 19530

                      I would have Silencers for each caliber that I own for both my Pistols and Rifles. But... I'd put a Loudener on my Shotguns!

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                      • #41
                        mothergreen
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 474

                        nope they don't but pvc pipe would be boardering on lunacy.. of course you wouldn't have the issue shonc is talking about since the bullet would fly right thru your pvc baffles.

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                        • #42
                          metalhead357
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5546

                          Well, for those like pushing the envelope......... I heard they're legal in CA and cant find much directly to say they aint but you could have a Hastings Barrel extension for yer' Shotgun right now.

                          From Cabellas website

                          Not only does this innovative 32", fully ported, screw-in barrel extension reduce the report of your shotgun by as much as 50% (more when using subsonic loads), it also substantially improves patterning. In fact, tests revealed consistent 85% patterns at 40 yards before the barrel was even fitted to accept choke tubes. At 1.1 pounds, it doesn't add excess forward weight. And the barrel extension disappears completely behind the bead, free from your line of sight. Extension tube is threaded for same choke tube as the factory weapon it is installed on. Installation wrench is included. Blued finish.
                          problem is-- its LONNNNNNNNNNNNG,

                          but for $130 I've thought about it a couple of times.
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                          I am not a number! I am a free man

                          1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                          2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                          3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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                          • #43
                            5968
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 3557

                            Originally posted by Hopi
                            Passage from a great book:

                            The Amnesty was going to allow registration of silencers without having to pay the tax, during the one month 'window'. That was why Henry was spending a great deal of time cutting and putting serial numbers
                            on various diameters and lengths of stainless steel aircraft tubing. He had decided that fifty would probably suffice for a lifetime supply, given his high-volume shooting habits. The outer tubes were what was
                            important. He could make the internals up later, as they were needed.
                            Stainless steel was a lot harder to cut than mild steel, and Henry was soon sweating again. Christ! Henry said to himself. Cutting off pieces of aircraft tubing and stamping numbers on them all weekend 'cause it's
                            the only time when you don't have to pay the Feds two hundred bucks for each one.
                            Good ole Henry Bowman. The book is a good read if you have a little time on youe hands.
                            sigpicIf you loan someone twenty dollars and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
                            Originally posted by hoffmang
                            NFA is a long ways off as well it should be. Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...-Gene

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                            • #44
                              FatKatMatt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 1009

                              All the home defense guns, as well as the SHTF guns
                              http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...almonfai3l.jpg

                              Kimber Tactical Custom II
                              Browning Semi-Auto .22 Rifle
                              Benelli Supernova

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                              • #45
                                Waingro
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1214

                                Originally posted by glockman19
                                Yes I'd likely have them on most of my guns.

                                Wouldn't it be nice NOT to have to wear ear protection?
                                HEARING PROTECTION? WHAT'S THAT?!
                                You never hear the phrase eaten dead.

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