A Defense Fund for Stand your ground/home self-defense

[NewGuy1911]

Been reading this; http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=567332

Was wondering if something like what Law Enforcement does would help people that defend their family/freedom/way of life/liberty, that is a fund used to provide a well financed fair trial and provide tooth brush and paste, reading material,...etc

After defending your family and self the next great fear is; you could lose everything you have spent a life time working for and the ability to pass the fruits of your labor on to your children. The idea is, if a persons breaks into your living space and you need to defend yourself, the next major problem might be if their family sues you. If the likelihood of these people winning in court is diminished fewer attorneys would be willing to file these suits.

Just a thought; I've been wondering if I had to chose between defending my way of life and losing everything I've struggled for, what I might do.

[monk]

Who would manage this fund? How would the monies by distributed to those who need it? Should it just be for people who have put into the fund or for any law-abiding gun owner? If it is only for people who put into it, is there a minimum they have to put in? I assume that, eventually, there would be more money than there are people in need, so what would happen to the extra money? Personally, I think it would be better to make a fund yourself.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Who cares? If someone is threatening your life, stop them, immediately. It puzzles me that people sit around and worry about getting sued afterwards. You should spend more time practicing and trying to avoid trouble than worrying about possible lawsuits after the fact. You might let them kill you so you wouldn't have to worry about getting sued later? WTF?

I would have zero interest in such a fund. If you shoot someone and you get sued, that is on you.

[dustoff31]

Who cares? If someone is threatening your life, stop them, immediately. It puzzles me that people sit around and worry about getting sued afterwards. You should spend more time practicing and trying to avoid trouble than worrying about possible lawsuits after the fact. You might let them kill you so you wouldn't have to worry about getting sued later? WTF?

I would have zero interest in such a fund. If you shoot someone and you get sued, that is on you.

IMO, people who worry about being sued for defending their lives should probably forget about guns and just call 911 and/or run away.

If they are second guessing themselves about pulling the trigger now, it isn't going to get any easier at the moment of truth.

[johnny_22]

In addition to practice and training, insurance.

Always practice and train with good teachers. I am lucky living in the Bay Area where Louis Awerbuck teaches at my local range (Reed's).

I recommend the NRA insurance for hunting, target shooting and a self defense rider. Only $269/year for $250k coverage.

Obviously, get the umbrella policy offered by your car insurance policy. Very cheap coverage for $1M. They will usually pay in true self defense circumstances.

Finally, the Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Fund out of Washington provides a quick $50k for getting a lawyer started in your defense. They also have expert witnesses on call, as needed.

So, I think we have enough to cover your worries.

[greybeard]

I think there are enough places to get this insurance without calguns having to take up the mantle.

[Det]

After defending your family and self the next great fear is; you could lose everything you have spent a life time working for and the ability to pass the fruits of your labor on to your children. The idea is, if a persons breaks into your living space and you need to defend yourself, the next major problem might be if their family sues you. If the likelihood of these people winning in court is diminished fewer attorneys would be willing to file these suits.

All the funds in the world wont stop frivolous lawsuits.
And all the laws in the world won't stop criminals.

I find it interesting that the "land of the free" has the most laws governing it's "free" citizens. As well as the most prisoners per capita.

The law as written in most states, is flawed at its core. For instance in the Florida language, phrases like "reasonably believes" and "reason to believe" are way too open to interpretation.

I'd be more worried about telling my kids not to wear a hoodie in a "stand your ground" state, especially a southern "red" state. Otherwise, someone might have "reason to believe" and my kids might not be around to receive the fruits of my labor.

[NewGuy1911]

Thanks Johnny 22!

Detective, I have been involved in a frivolous lawsuit. It cost a bit of money to win it. How does Law Enforcement people show support for one of there own, pass the cup?

Maybe I should not have used the term "stand your ground" (not real sure what that means anyway!). The idea is if someone breaks into your living space and you believe your family (and/or yourself) face being murdered and you defend yourself.

Also, the idea is not necessarily only Calguns, but many Pro-gun groups together.

Maybe the question is; how can the "Castle Doctrine" be improved !

And would there be fewer self defense lawsuits if the defender had the support of a number of pro-gun groups (or a very good insurance policy through them)?

[Rumline]

Maybe the question is; how can the "Castle Doctrine" be improved !

By adding language that says something like when a person kills or injures another person in a justified self-defense action, and is either found not guilty or no charges are pressed, then that person is immune to civil suit with regards to that self-defense action. BTW, IANAL and there are already laws like this on the books in other states, look those up for better language.

[NewGuy1911]

How can I remove "Calguns" from the above title? And replace with pro-gun groups.

[monk]

Click Edit on your post, then Advanced.

[NewGuy1911]

Thanks Mr. Monk!