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  • BigJ
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3172

    Transporting in a truck... in the bed under a locked hard cover?

    Hey guys, just like the OP of this thread, I have no doubt this has been asked and answered a dozen times, but my meager search abilities turned up nothing. So I apologize in advanced if this is dead horse...

    But here's my question: I know this is legal in California, but is this federally/GFSZ legal, if the bed cover is locked and the contents within cannot be accessed without a key? There are no inside the cab latches that would unlock it; only someone physically turning a key will open it up.



    (the pic was staged for fun, no the gun is not loaded either in the chamber or in the tube, and yes the question is valid )

    Thanks for your time!
    "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis
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    Chaos47
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 6615

    Bed cover locked = locked container. GTG

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    • #3
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11751

      Yup, that's just fine.

      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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      • #4
        BigJ
        Veteran Member
        • May 2010
        • 3172

        Thanks very much!
        Originally posted by Chaos47
        Bed cover locked = locked container. GTG
        Ya know, when you phrased it like that it dawned on me that a handgun mounted in a similar way in my bed under this cover would also be legal. Not sure why that didn't click with me before...

        Do I have that right? Basically any firearm legal to own in California stored under this cover in my bed is being "legal"ly transported except where firearms are prohibited?
        "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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          Javierv73
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 863

          Nice sticker and nice avatar gotta love that Kimber

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          • #6
            Chaos47
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 6615

            Originally posted by BigJ
            Thanks very much!Ya know, when you phrased it like that it dawned on me that a handgun mounted in a similar way in my bed under this cover would also be legal. Not sure why that didn't click with me before...

            Do I have that right? Basically any firearm legal to own in California stored under this cover in my bed is being "legal"ly transported except where firearms are prohibited?
            Pistol would need to be unloaded but you can have the loaded magazine in the same container, yes.

            Be careful where you take them out of the container since they are not in cases.. Could be considered brandishing if someone saw you and called the cops... just hypothetical

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            • #7
              BigJ
              Veteran Member
              • May 2010
              • 3172

              Originally posted by Chaos47
              Pistol would need to be unloaded but you can have the loaded magazine in the same container, yes.
              Totally understood. But just to be totally over the top clear... the long gun needs to remain unloaded too, right? Or in other words, if I loaded up the shotgun and put it right back as is in the picture, closed and locked the bed cover, I am still in violation of the law just as I would be in the case of a pistol. Do I have that right?
              Be careful where you take them out of the container since they are not in cases.. Could be considered brandishing if someone saw you and called the cops... just hypothetical
              Absolutely. Its not clear in the pic, but you can kind of see it between the cans; the shotgun actually is in a scabbard style case. If the gun is coming out for any other reason than an emergency, its coming out in that case.
              "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Yea sorry I always focus on the unloaded part with pistols but yes rifles and shotguns need to be unloaded too I believe.

                Just to be clear rifles and shotguns do not need to be locked up for CA law but for Federal GFSZ I personally do lock them. Another reason as I have stated in other threads is to cause an extra step a cop insisting on a search will have to over come.

                RAW's need to be unloaded and locked

                HANDGUNS Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

                has a good definition of container
                The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
                Personally when transporting in an uncovered truck bed I put everything in a large duffle bag and lock that and not the individual cases inside.
                Last edited by Chaos47; 05-01-2012, 2:10 PM.

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                • #9
                  BigJ
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 3172

                  Originally posted by Chaos47
                  Yea sorry I always focus on the unloaded part with pistols but yes rifles and shotguns need to be unloaded too I believe.

                  Just to be clear rifles and shotguns do not need to be locked up for CA law but for Federal GFSZ I personally do lock them. Another reason as I have stated in other threads is to cause an extra step a cop insisting on a search will have to over come.

                  RAW's need to be unloaded and locked

                  HANDGUNS Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

                  has a good definition of container
                  Great. Thanks for the clarification, and confirmation I'm on the right page.

                  I happen to agree with you regarding the lock. I lock my truck bed up all the time anyway, so its not an extra hassle or step I need to make sure to follow. But like I said I don't really know why I never considered it a "locked container" and therefore legal for my handguns. Good stuff!
                  "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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