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  • shooperman
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1854

    ACOG or 3x magnifier

    So right now I have an Aimpoint pro on my AR. My problem is I can't see very well at 50 yds, let alone 100. So my question is, should I invest in a Aimpoint 3x mag? Or just spend a little extra dough and go with an ACOG? I just finished building an AR pistol that the Aimpoint would be perfect for. I think I already know what I want, but I'm looking for some other opinions. Thanks.
    "I'd cure the whole world with one primal scream, but no one would listen" - Davey Havok
  • #2
    Press Check
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 4879

    I switched from the Aimpoint M4 and the Aimpoint 3x Magnifier to the ACOG and have absolutely no regrets. In the realm of red dot optics, Aimpoint is king, but in the realm of magnified CQB optics, the ACOG is extremely tough to beat.

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    • #3
      alfred1222
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2010
      • 7331

      I have the ACOG, its amazing. i went straight to it after i learned with iron sights, and honestly nothing compares.
      Originally posted by Kestryll
      This guy is a complete and total idiot.
      /thread.

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      • #4
        voiceofreason
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 3785

        What purpose circumstances are you using it for?

        A red dot isn't going to shine at 50 or 100 yards. It was designed for CQB and fast target acquisition.

        A magnified ACOG is excellent at longer engagement distances, but is a hindrance at close quarters.


        Don't use a hammer to take down a wall... Don't use a sledge to hammer a nail.

        Know your tools' strengths and limitations.
        "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
        John Quincy Adams

        "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
        voiceofreason

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        • #5
          Fr0ntSight
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 31

          I say go with the ACOG. I just got mine and can't believe i didn't sooner. Thing is super hardened and accurate out to 800yds...you can also use it in CQB. You shoot with both eyes open with it so you can get that fast target aquisition. If you zero it out to 100yds though make sure you aim at the bottom of the chevron if its CQB. If you can afford to spend the money on it DO iT and throw the aimpoint on anothe build.

          FS

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          • #6
            jj805
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2012
            • 4492

            Originally posted by voiceofreason
            What purpose circumstances are you using it for?

            A red dot isn't going to shine at 50 or 100 yards. It was designed for CQB and fast target acquisition.

            A magnified ACOG is excellent at longer engagement distances, but is a hindrance at close quarters.


            Don't use a hammer to take down a wall... Don't use a sledge to hammer a nail.

            Know your tools' strengths and limitations.
            ACOG with RMR will do both.

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            • #7
              krisjon
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 379

              Originally posted by jj805
              ACOG with RMR will do both.
              Of course it will. Starting at $2+k. C'mon, man.

              OP, it really depends on what kind of shooting you find yourself doing the most. If you're not doing a lot close-in/CQB type distances, an ACOG will shine for you past 50 yards. Inside of that, things get a little fuzzy, but it's not unusable.

              Perhaps a better option would be an adjustable 1-4x illuminated optic. You can find decent ones for less than $1k. That might give you more all-around balance between close up and distance shooting.

              Hope this helps!

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              • #8
                Untamed1972
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2009
                • 17579

                Originally posted by voiceofreason
                What purpose circumstances are you using it for?

                A red dot isn't going to shine at 50 or 100 yards. It was designed for CQB and fast target acquisition.

                A magnified ACOG is excellent at longer engagement distances, but is a hindrance at close quarters.

                Don't use a hammer to take down a wall... Don't use a sledge to hammer a nail.

                Know your tools' strengths and limitations.

                ACOG will definitely work against you for fast target aquisition at shorter engagement distances.
                "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                Quote for the day:
                "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                • #9
                  killathrilla
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1330

                  ...
                  Last edited by killathrilla; 01-06-2013, 10:27 AM.

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                  • #10
                    ExtremeX
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 7160

                    I used a RDS for a while on my AR, I liked it a lot, but it didn't really fit my shooting style. I generally prefer scopes, even a solid 1-4x would be an good option, but I did get an ACOG, and its pretty amazing.

                    If you want the best of both worlds look for a 1-4x scope, or get an ACOG and a microdot mounted at 45.

                    I have done a little CQB type shooting with the ACOG, you can make it work, but it takes a little practice to be good with it.

                    If you can afford an ACOG, you should try it out, and see if its for you.
                    ExtremeX

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                    • #11
                      Untamed1972
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 17579

                      Originally posted by killathrilla
                      ^^^ not true imho
                      I have an acog and with practice its awesome at close up in ur face shooting and simply focusing ur vision differently ur long range without doing anything with ur hands .....just my 2 cents
                      Well....I'm thinkin' there is a reason they make ACOG's with either little iron sights on top, or a mount for a reddot.

                      A magnified optic is not intended for CQB. Just because you can "make it work with practice" doesn't meant that's what it's intended for, or the best tool for the job.
                      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                      Quote for the day:
                      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                      • #12
                        ExtremeX
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 7160

                        The reason they make mounts for stuff on top is... options....

                        ACOG with BAC (Bindon Aiming Concept) was intended for use like a RDS or Reflex sight. For me, it works rather well as a CQB optic.

                        So best tool for the job, is the one you can use, to get the job done.

                        ExtremeX

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                        • #13
                          misterjake
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1034

                          The BAC works great if you practice with it.

                          Originally posted by Untamed1972
                          Well....I'm thinkin' there is a reason they make ACOG's with either little iron sights on top, or a mount for a reddot.

                          A magnified optic is not intended for CQB. Just because you can "make it work with practice" doesn't meant that's what it's intended for, or the best tool for the job.

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                          • #14
                            Supertac916
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 2423

                            I'll let you know next week how I like the Aimpoint 3x with my EoTech. I don't have an ACOG, but I have a Leupold CQT and it was tough to get used to doing CQB fast acquisition drills. Shooting and moving fast the optic would just blur. Eotech works a lot better at close ranges and I'll see how the 3x multiplier does. The next optic I'll pickup will probably be an ACOG though.

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                            • #15
                              mk3mitch
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 707

                              Like a few have said, it depends on the application. But I've used both quite a bit in the Army. And I love the ACOG! It's so much more precise than the the Aimpoint. An Aimpoint works great out to 150 meters or so, but after that you're really gonna like the ACOG.

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