Bolting a Liberty gun safe to the garage

[Supertac916]

Im moving this weekend and was wondering what kind of bolts do you use to bolt a Liberty gun safe? Also, what kind of drill and bit do you need for the cement?

Appreciate the info...

Thanks

[drkphibr]

There are lots of videos on YouTube about this that are very helpful. There is one safe company that actually compares both types and strength (installs them in concrete and then uses a chain/forklift to "pull" them out and measures that break point)

As far as a drill. Hammer drill (HD/Lowes or rent one). Concrete/masonry drill bit and it looks quite straight forward. If you have a post-tension slab (newer homes over the last ~10 (or so) years will be an issue. If it's post-tension, it should be stamped so on the threshold at the center of the inside garage door. Plenty of info online about that as well.

Some will put a vapor barrier (plastic) down between the floor/safe to prevent the condensation from the concrete rusting the bottom of the safe. YMMV.

[Supertac916]

There are lots of videos on YouTube about this that are very helpful. There is one safe company that actually compares both types and strength (installs them in concrete and then uses a chain/forklift to "pull" them out and measures that break point)

As far as a drill. Hammer drill (HD/Lowes or rent one). Concrete/masonry drill bit and it looks quite straight forward. If you have a post-tension slab (newer homes over the last ~10 (or so) years will be an issue. If it's post-tension, it should be stamped so on the threshold at the center of the inside garage door. Plenty of info online about that as well.

Some will put a vapor barrier (plastic) down between the floor/safe to prevent the condensation from the concrete rusting the bottom of the safe. YMMV.

Thanks for the info.. I'll check out Youtube..

[xpbprox]

What he said but I just used a dewalt hammer drill

http://toolsandmore.us/images/products/detail/Dewalt/DWD520K.jpg

For anchors I would just use some red head anchors 5/8 or bigger

[owenriquez]

I live in Daly City and I have a corded hammer drill that you can use... drop me a PM

[AAShooter]

[ahren111]

1/2" Hilti wedge anchors. Shear strength of 7419lbs & tension strength of 11240lbs.

[Supertac916]

Sweet, thanks guys. I'll be moving the safe tomorrow and I'll rent a hammer drill and buy some 1/2" Hilti Wedge anchors.

Owenriquez: Appreciate the offer, but I live passed Sacramento which would be a little drive for me to borrow your drill and get it back to you in a timely manner.

Thanks again for the advice guys...

[Squid]

You might be able to "shoot" it with "Powder Actuated Tool"

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=hg5&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=%22Powder+Actuated+Tool%22&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8998331759106078914&sa=X&ei=t0STT6PSDuWviQKc7cEM&ved=0CFIQ8wIwAQ

Not as good as bolts, but you should be able to rent one for $10.

But if you don't already have a drill you really should get one.

This should be OK for occasional handy man use.

http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/hammer-drills/12-professional-variable-speed-reversible-hammer-drill-68169.html

Drills are great for mounting wire brushes etc, not just for drilling.

When using low end or even decent small drill for roto-hammer don't "flog" it. Give it a minutes rest 1/2 down each hole or you might blow the fuse in the trigger ($35 on my Bosch).


FIRST thing I'd do when mounting safe is install an loud hidden siren alarm that will trigger if someone prys it off the floor.

We had to do that to a house we were remodeling with a couple giant pry bars. I wasn't that hard as the concrete was older.


PS-roto-drill is handy for making drain holes on a concrete driveway or walk way. Just drill the deepest spot in the little puddles next rain. Makes a big diff.

[Dreaded Claymore]

FIRST thing I'd do when mounting safe is install an loud hidden siren alarm that will trigger if someone prys it off the floor.

That sounds awesome, but I've never heard of such a thing before. Can you show us where we can buy those?

[Creampuff]

I am going to come out of the closet here:




and admit occassionally I use Harbor Freight tools. I found this item to be a sleeper, and a good value:

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-in-1-1-inch-sds-rotary-hammer-97743.html

[cranemech]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=485561

Here is a tutorial with pics.

If you purchased a newer house be certain that it does not have a post tension slab

[monk]

FIRST thing I'd do when mounting safe is install an loud hidden siren alarm that will trigger if someone prys it off the floor.

TBH, I was thinking of using a pressure switch. That way, should anyone move the safe an alarm would sound. No clue if this would work or how sturdy it would need to be (needs to withstand however much weight you'd put on it).

As a side note OP, if you don't have a hammer drill, you CAN technically get away with using a regular drill. However, you're turning a job that shouldn't take more than, say, 30 minutes to an hour into a 5+ hour job. Ask me how I know lol.

[PEZHEAD265]

Bolt it to the floor with bolts and mollies, also lag it to the wall so it can't be rocked.

[XYZ]

Here's a step-by-step guide from the safe subforum:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=485561