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  • MASTERNOOB
    Banned
    • Mar 2012
    • 92

    Idiots

    How can the ATF seize 30 air-soft guns claiming that if they fall into the wrong hands, then they could be converted into fully automatic weapons??!! Last time I checked they have no firing pin, no gas chamber because a lot of guns are gas operated or unless they have batteries. Plus they'll blow up in your face and you'll loose a hand if not both if you try to shoot it. And they may not even fit int the freakin gun!! Then when questioned they say it's not a question they can answer. Plus they'll even threaten you that if you walk down the street or even get caught with one, then you'd better expect trouble.

  • #2
    ke6guj
    Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Nov 2003
    • 23725

    welcome to 2010.
    Jack



    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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    • #3
      fallenknight308
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 512

      Originally posted by MASTERNOOB
      How can the ATF seize 30 air-soft guns claiming that if they fall into the wrong hands, then they could be converted into fully automatic weapons??!! Last time I checked they have no firing pin, no gas chamber because a lot of guns are gas operated or unless they have batteries. Plus they'll blow up in your face and you'll loose a hand if not both if you try to shoot it. And they may not even fit int the freakin gun!! Then when questioned they say it's not a question they can answer. Plus they'll even threaten you that if you walk down the street or even get caught with one, then you'd better expect trouble.

      Hey don't blow a gasket
      What happened? could you elaborate? is there a news link or something?
      Or did this happen to you?
      Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
      Willard: I'm a soldier.
      Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
      Apocalypse Now!
      "The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
      Sir Robert Peel

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      • #4
        battleship
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 4958

        news link please this sounds interesting.

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        • #5
          fallenknight308
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 512

          Originally posted by battleship
          news link please this sounds interesting.

          Google is great
          Old news but I agree MASTERNOOB it was a silly thing to do. There is no way in hell anyone could convert AS to real live ammo firing weapons.
          Last edited by fallenknight308; 04-18-2012, 8:49 PM.
          Kurtz: I expected someone like you. What did you expect? Are you an assassin?
          Willard: I'm a soldier.
          Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.
          Apocalypse Now!
          "The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
          Sir Robert Peel

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by battleship
            news link please this sounds interesting.


            from 2010.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              tbc
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2011
              • 5955

              Originally posted by battleship
              news link please this sounds interesting.
              2nd request for the link.


              Sent from IPhone

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              • #8
                tradecraft
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 4619

                Every time I see one of your posts, I silently congratulate you on picking such a fitting ID.

                2 years late, as someone pointed out
                Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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                • #9
                  Cuda440
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 3289



                  Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

                  Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    tbc
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5955

                    New news to me. There goes my tax. Hope that this was just an isolated incident.


                    Sent from IPhone

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                    • #11
                      MASTERNOOB
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 92

                      Yeah well I guess I've just gotten tired of it and decided to express my displeasure.

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                      • #12
                        alfred1222
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 7331

                        Originally posted by scottschoe
                        Every time I see one of your posts, I silently congratulate you on picking such a fitting ID.

                        2 years late, as someone pointed out
                        I know, and i always see the username and ....
                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        This guy is a complete and total idiot.
                        /thread.

                        ΦΑ

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                        • #13
                          yelohamr
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1402

                          The title answered your question.

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                          • #14
                            Muscles Glasses
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 514

                            Ok let me clarify on this subject! Some of the older gas powered AR style airsoft guns were nearly exact dimensions to the real firearm. Apparently what was found out was somebody could go off and take the airsoft full auto lower, throw on an real ar15 upper and bam you have an illegal machine gun.

                            Those were older models of airsoft guns. Nowadays they manufacture them so they will either not accept a real upper receiver, so the action will not function with a real upper receiver, and so that the airsoft parts cannot be put into a real lower receiver.

                            Obviously the electric guns, and the gas powered uppers could not be converted. The ATF was throwing a hissy fit over the airsoft gas powered lowers.
                            If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.

                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.

                            We keep one foot in the water.

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                            • #15
                              MASTERNOOB
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 92

                              Well too bad I can't go on a tirade about the gov't otherwise I would. Plus I'd be saying things the majority wouldn't have the audacity to say unfortunately. Plus I guess criticizing is frowned upon and they say it doesn't help. Well sitting around and not doing anything won't. Voting hasn't either.

                              They say if you don't vote, then don't complain. You vote and they say oh well wait four years. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

                              Well I say I'm gonna speak my mind and people don't like it, then oh well!! Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

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