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  • TimG
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 355

    AD in my garage

    I should say negligent discharge, not accidental I suppose. On Christmas day, my Dad wanted to see my Glock G26 (My Dad is a former M.P. and a retired deputy Sheriff so he knows firearms) so I open up the safe and hand it to him. I have a bad habit of keeping a loaded magazine in the pistol but no round in the firing chamber. So my Dad takes it out of the holster and with the pistol pointed down (in the safest direction possible) pulled the slide back and confirmed that there was no round chambered but from the steep angle he was holding it at did not see the top round in the magazine. He released the slide as I was turning away to grab my coffee, and there's only one way to decock a Glock...... Let me tell you, a 9mm round fired inside a closed garage is louder than hell. The round grazed my safes door and put a big dent in the very bottom corner and there's some lead splatter on the floor. but no other damage thank God. Which brings up a question, I cannot find that bullet anywhere. No pieces of the jacket, no lead parts... nothing. The distance from the muzzle to the safe was about three feet. Did that round disintegrate or should I keep looking ??

    Anyhow, that was a loud and very disturbing reminder of the four rules. There were many things I did wrong as well as my Dad. Needles to say, none of my pistols have magazines in them anymore.
  • #2
    Soldier415
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2007
    • 9537

    YIKES.

    Glad your OK, and that you manned up and called it a negligent discharge.

    Definately a learning experience, glad no one got hurt. good luck finding the round...
    Originally posted by harmoniums
    Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
    My gut is good for two things, making poo and spotting crazy
    Originally posted by bwiese
    Do not get your legal advice from Forest Rangers or Sheriffs: that's like getting medical advice from your plumber.

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    • #3
      5968
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 3557

      Glad to hear you guys didn't get hurt. Basic firearm safety rules should always be observed for this reason. Not trying to bash on you. I'm glad that you posted what happened as gentle reminder to all of us.
      sigpicIf you loan someone twenty dollars and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
      Originally posted by hoffmang
      NFA is a long ways off as well it should be. Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...-Gene

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      • #4
        thedonger
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 1080

        My Father did that very same thing once. Once. The round went into the safe door.

        While showing his collection to my sisters boyfriend. They both just about had to change their pants.
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        TheDonger.CalGuns@gmail.com

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        • #5
          E Pluribus Unum
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 8098

          Originally posted by TimG
          (My Dad is a former M.P. and a retired deputy Sheriff so he knows firearms)
          What does that mean? Some of the most arrogant yet firearm ignorant people I know are ex-military or ex-leo.

          I would rather train someone who knows nothing and knows it than someone who does not know everything, but thinks it.

          As far as the NG... no biggie; the basic rules were followed, though not correctly it is much better than doing nothing; the muzzle was still pointed in a safe direction. Its better than shooting a hole in your door and killing bathroom tiles...
          Originally posted by Alan Gura
          The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
          Originally posted by hoffmang
          12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

          -Gene
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          • #6
            U2BassAce
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1677

            I blame it on Glock!

            Glad no one was hurt! That must have been quite the shock!!

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            • #7
              ocabj
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 7924

              To properly check if a firearm is unloaded:

              1. Remove the magazine if applicable.
              2. If magazine not removable, unload all rounds in the internal magazine.
              3. Open action to visually and physically check that there is no round in the chamber.
              4. Visually and physically check to see that the magazine follower is visible and no rounds in the magazine, if magazine non-removable.

              When you hand an 'unloaded' firearm to someone else, always unload and verify unloaded. Show the person you are handing it to that it is unloaded (action open, show chamber and show magazine is removed or that there are no rounds in the magazine if non-removable).

              Distinguished Rifleman #1924
              NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
              NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

              https://www.ocabj.net

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              • #8
                TimG
                Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 355

                Originally posted by ocabj
                To properly check if a firearm is unloaded:

                1. Remove the magazine if applicable.
                2. If magazine not removable, unload all rounds in the internal magazine.
                3. Open action to visually and physically check that there is no round in the chamber.
                4. Visually and physically check to see that the magazine follower is visible and no rounds in the magazine, if magazine non-removable.

                When you hand an 'unloaded' firearm to someone else, always unload and verify unloaded. Show the person you are handing it to that it is unloaded (action open, show chamber and show magazine is removed or that there are no rounds in the magazine if non-removable).
                Exactly. I was rather complacent and handed him a pistol with a loaded magazine in it. He was complacent in thinking that just because no round came out when he pulled the side back that it was clear.

                I just posted that as a friendly reminder to us all

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                • #9
                  tonb
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 524

                  Originally posted by ocabj
                  To properly check if a firearm is unloaded:

                  1. Remove the magazine if applicable.
                  2. If magazine not removable, unload all rounds in the internal magazine.
                  3. Open action to visually and physically check that there is no round in the chamber.
                  4. Visually and physically check to see that the magazine follower is visible and no rounds in the magazine, if magazine non-removable.

                  When you hand an 'unloaded' firearm to someone else, always unload and verify unloaded. Show the person you are handing it to that it is unloaded (action open, show chamber and show magazine is removed or that there are no rounds in the magazine if non-removable).
                  +1

                  I keep my 1911 loaded as well; when I hand it to someone I eject the magazine and check/clear the chamber before handing it over slide locked back.

                  When handed any gun, including one that someone has just cleared in front of me, I eject the mag if present and check/clear the chamber.

                  If those steps were followed this would not have happened.

                  Glad no one got shot!
                  Respect all, fear none.

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                  • #10
                    thedonger
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1080

                    In my large safe I do not store any guns with loaded mags inside the gun. I do keep some loaded mags in the safe if needed. The only weapons I keep with loaded mags also have one in the chamber and in a quick access location.
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                    TheDonger.CalGuns@gmail.com

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                    • #11
                      brianm767
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 2415

                      Well I wont go into any of the things already mentioned, as I'm sure your already aware of the mistakes that were made, and they will not be repeated.

                      It is a good lesson for all of us,

                      But to your question, I would keep looking for that round, seems to me it or pieces of it have to be some where?

                      Have you checked all exterior walls and interior house walls to make sure that round was contained in your garage?

                      Your neighbors dog hasn't seemed to stop barking since the incident has he?

                      I can see it now, ten years from now you'll be cleaning your garage and say, There it is!

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                      • #12
                        Fjold
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 22975

                        The bullet is somewhere in the garage or else there is a hole and it is outside.
                        Frank

                        One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                        Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                        • #13
                          Soldier415
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 9537

                          Originally posted by brianm767
                          Well I wont go into any of the things already mentioned, as I'm sure your already aware of the mistakes that were made, and they will not be repeated.

                          It is a good lesson for all of us,

                          But to your question, I would keep looking for that round, seems to me it or pieces of it have to be some where?

                          Have you checked all exterior walls and interior house walls to make sure that round was contained in your garage?

                          Your neighbors dog hasn't seemed to stop barking since the incident has he?

                          I can see it now, ten years from now you'll be cleaning your garage and say, There it is!
                          One more question...did you happen to have a fresh pair of shorts handy?
                          Originally posted by harmoniums
                          Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
                          My gut is good for two things, making poo and spotting crazy
                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          Do not get your legal advice from Forest Rangers or Sheriffs: that's like getting medical advice from your plumber.

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                          • #14
                            tonb
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 524

                            Oh and to the OP, thanks for posting this it is a good reminder for us all to not get lazy. Takes balls to come out and say I messed up...
                            Respect all, fear none.

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                            • #15
                              MudCamper
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4595

                              I don't think the OP did anything wrong. His dad did.

                              I don't care what anybody says when they hand me a firearm. ("It's not loaded. It's loaded." whatever.) It is in my hand and is now my responsibility.

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