How much do gun shops make?

[xenophobe]

Yeah, would have been a blue label box... but a FFL selling one of those to non-LE or non-FET exempt firearms could get in trouble if the ATF were to find out.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Yeah, would have been a blue label box... but a FFL selling one of those to non-LE or non-FET exempt firearms could get in trouble if the ATF were to find out.

You'd be surprised at how often it happened back in the 90's. I'd be RO the range and notice a shooter with a blue label Glock box in one of the lanes. An innocent question would confirm that the owner wasn't LEO, but had just picked up their new, bargain priced Glock from a local dealer (now thankfully, out o' the gun biz).

[metalhead357]

Yeah, would have been a blue label box... but a FFL selling one of those to non-LE or non-FET exempt firearms could get in trouble if the ATF were to find out.

so back to the balked contract idea...that or he found himself a distributor to the distributors; this shop was not "it" for the LEO so I dont think that was the route they woulda taken.....

[RollingCode3]

Dealers usually get glock in for 440, but on the other hand, glocks do offer discount to LEOs. The LEO packages come with three mags instead of two

[CRTguns]

Glocks cost around $75 to manufacture. Add a 250% markup to retailers & LEO and the price comes to about $190. Add the Retailer markup of 250% and you get somewhere around $465.

Dude... try and speak with some experience or fact- that way ya won't sound redikerus.
Glocks cost retailers about $440. Period.

250% retail markup? Check your math. We are lucky to clear 25% on a sale.

[edittman1]

Usually tiers are 20-30% in all industries.

So, if something costs $300, the dealer makes 30% off that. So we'll say $100 for simplicity. Then, the distributor also marked it up 30% on $200, so it made roughly 70ish bucks. The manufacturer sold it for $130, and also made 30%. Which would be like $75 or something.

So, a glock at $525...
Dealer: 407
Distributor: 320
Manufacturer: 240

Something like that. This model does not apply to everything though obviously, and may not apply directly to the firearm market either, just some theoretical figures.

[Moonclip]

Things vary depending on the item and the industry. Grocery stores for the most part are suppose to have thin profit margins, they make it in volume. I've heard of 50%-100% margins in other industries.

I read once it cost about $13 to make a Raven .25acp which I believe as I remember dealers selling them sometimes for $50 NIB.

Why does Glock offer such a deep discount to LE? I assume they want John Q. Public to see the local cop carrying one and think he has to have one also. Doesn't Glock have 65% of LE market? If Glock was smarter, they would the extent the LE discount or even free Glocks to rappers!

[Stormfeather]

Let's face it your prices just suck on your guns and ammo too. I've bought and seen Glocks for $430 in group buys. Try reading.

I'm simply quoting from an article where Gaston Glock was quoted as saying his cost to produce one gun was $75. The article was from Forbes Magazine.

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0331/064.html

Yes $430. and the most I've paid is $550 for a Glock 19 with night sights NIB 2 mags, case.

Sorry disappoint you guys:
"These days Glock GmbH has an estimated $100 million in sales, two-thirds of it from the trigger-happy United States. A gun that retails for $500 can be manufactured for $75, and the company has a pretax margin nearing 60%, estimates John Farnam of Defense Training International, a LaPorte, Colo. small arms instructor."

Im waiting to read Gaston Glock saying that he can make the gun for $75.00. . . havent found it yet, can you help me find it? Sorry to disaapoint you there kid, but Gaston Glock didnt day that. Re-read the article then check your facts. Or, just follow your own advice. Try Reading. . .

[glockman19]

Stormfeather,

I tend to believe the Forbes article. So you overpay for guns.

YES Glocks cost less than $100 to manufacture, I believe the $75 figure, to produce.

Don't like it. Don't believe it? Call them up and ask them. Tel.: +1 770-432-1202. Also, LEO cost $398. I spoke with Craig in Customer Service.

I believe it.

[FinweElensar]

As for using the Internet to buy guns to the exclusion of the local guy, remember that if you keep doing that, eventually you will drive the local guy out of business. Then who will do your transfer for you?

In my area, there's one guy who primarily does online transfers(Rob Blank). I don't think he's going anywhere.

I'm not rich enough to "support" the local guy. I gotta squeeze every dollar to buy more guns.

[bear308]

Let's face it your prices just suck on your guns and ammo too. I've bought and seen Glocks for $430 in group buys. Try reading.

Well we sell 35,000 rounds of that "over priced" ammo every week. You should come down and get some. DO NOT attempt to single me out for having high prices on guns. All of the retailers that have chimed in this thread have been right along course with what I said. If you want to continue a delusional Jihad against myself and my business you will not enjoy what happens. See how it feels.

Anyway, if you were buying guns in group buys that are going for less than what it costs me to buy one, good for you. Hey you should try going to B & B or Pony express and look at some of the new models. OH THATS RIGHT, YA CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONE.

[eta34]

Glock does offer discounts to LEOs, but there are only certain "certified" dealers who do that program. Two in southern CA are the Orange Co. Sheriff's Range Store and ProForce in Brea.

As far as the gun shop owners "marking up" their products, why do you think they are in business? For many of these guys, this is their sole source of income. Should they sell the gun at a loss to you so you will stop whining?

I look at it much like the for sale forums on this site. If you don't like the price, find the product somewhere else.

[glockman19]

bear308,

Don't be so over sensitive.

DO NOT attempt to single me out for having high prices on guns. All of the retailers that have chimed in this thread have been right along course with what I said. If you want to continue a delusional Jihad against myself and my business you will not enjoy what happens. See how it feels.

First, I'm NOT singling you out.

Second, But...What are you talking about? What Jihad?

Third, It's NOT your business. A little Sensitive aren't we.

Forth, Sounds like a threat to me. Thanks for putting it in writing and posting it.

I NEVER said anything about the price just the manufacturing cost. It's not going to stop me from buying them in the $450-$550 range.

The fact remains, Glocks cost less than $100 to manufacture. The article I linked to figures $75. All Glock Customer service will verify over the phone was Less than $100.

Happy Holidays

[GenLee]

Wow

+ 1,000,000

I refuse to buy from the internet. I would much rather spend a few extra dollars and support my local store. Then again, my local gun shop has excellent staff and service, so I enjoy going there for whatever reason as I usually end up spending an hour or two.

I would love to second you on thoughts of putting local shops out of business and staying off the internet deals, However i live in San Diego, So I know of no shops here willing to sell nor transfer me a say a SAIGA, Vector AK, AR, other than a Bushy Carbon 15Ca(Junk in MHO), AR-15 mags, and only one shop who will sell me an over priced OLL with only one choice. Stag (Which i am a fan of and did buy one from him) but stil need to drive to SFV for transfers and yes thats two trips there and back as we know. If there were options here in San Diego I would agree with your post but to my knowledge there is not, so the internet is a must for me.

[bear308]

Lets beak it down.

Don't be so over sensitive. Pot, this Kettle, how are ya



First, I'm NOT singling you out. Originally Posted by glockman19 View Post
Let's face it your prices just suck on your guns and ammo too

Second, But...What are you talking about? What Jihad?

Third, It's NOT your business. Do I make my money by running the place? My name is not on th deed, but my livelihood is still at stake.

Forth, Sounds like a threat to me. Thanks for putting it in writing and posting it. anytime

I NEVER said anything about the price Originally Posted by glockman19 View Post
Let's face it your prices just suck on your guns and ammo too just the manufacturing cost.
Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays too you as well.