Starting IDPA soon...will be taking the safety clinic in May at Sac Valley. Trying to choose between my Beretta M9 and Colt 1991...should the choice be based on which I'm more accurate with, or is there an advantage to be had with one over the other? Can you recommend an appropriate holster for either / both?
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IDPA questions...holster, gun, etc.
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The Beretta would put you into SSP (production/stock) class where most folks will be shooting 9mm guns loaded to 10 rounds in their magazines
The 1911 would put you in CDP where you'll be shooting against other folks shooting .45ACP chambered pistols loaded to 8 rounds in their magazines.
If you've had custom work done on your gun, you might fall into ESP (Enhanced)...which is the catch all for folks who like to mod their SA guns.
I believe that accuracy should be your primary concern in making that choice. You'll have a lot of things to think about running the COF, you shouldn't have to worry about the accuracy of your gun.
A lot of folks starting out get the economically priced Fobus Paddle holster. A nice holster for IDPA are ones from Blade-Tech...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale -
Your best bet is the BladeTech, and a Fobus double mag pouch, plus a Wilderness Tactical Belt. If you have any money left over, get the Peltor Tac 6 electric ears. That's all the equipment you need to start and it will last for decades.Comment
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I would not get a Fobus holster, pain in the arse, sticky draw, causes problems for me and my friends who have them (although their mag holsters are fine).
I'd get something Kydex like Uncle Mike's which can be found for dirty cheap and are really great holsters or a nice leather one if you're going with a 1911. I'd also get a pair of the Howard Leight Impact Sport electronic muffs.
For what it's worth, I have never seen someone shooting a Beretta. I would go with your 1911.Comment
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Kydex is definitely the holster to get. Blade-Tech is an excellent brand. I used a Kytac brand for IDPA. Check on the IDPA web site for the list of approved holsters.
The belt is important. As mentioned Wilderness is excellent. 1.5" to 2" stiff belt. I used a nylon with a stiffener sewn in it, works well and was made to carry a handgun.
In IDPA there is a physical difference in shooting steel knockdown targets between 9mm and .45. I started out using a 9mm 226 and while the "extra" rounds in the mag was nice I found with steel knockdown targets I had to have a solid hit or occasionally the steel wouldn't drop
. When I changed to a .45 1911 that pretty much went away but recoil is greater. There were a few people who compromised by having a 1911 built in .40
I really enjoyed IDPA and I'll offer advice from Wyatt Earp: "Take your time in a hurry." Oh, and another favorite phrase: "You can't miss fast enough to win."Last edited by BKinzey; 02-24-2012, 12:51 PM.Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
"A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."Comment
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For what it's worth, I have never seen someone shooting a Beretta. I would go with your 1911.[/QUOTE]
You don't see as many as you used to in the beginning of IDPA, but a newbie is still better off to start with a double action wide body gun shooting minor floor than a 1911. And like in USPSA, about half the guns are Glocks and the other half are 1911's.
Ben Stoeger does very well with a Beretta.
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Bladetech's are great I guess, but the price is just unjustified. Unkle Mike's Kydex for $22 to my door off Amazon Prime. Cannot beat it.
IDPA no longer maintains an "Approved Holsters" list.
Re: Beretta vs. 1911 — Shoot what you're comfortable width. Double action vs. Single Actions matters not. Shoot what you like shooting. I can guarantee you'll enjoy the 1911 more though I think.IDPA-approved holsters will be strong-side hip holsters or inside-the waistband holsters which cover the trigger guard and which have no cut-aways, drop, or offset, except that a limited amount of drop and offset is allowed for women. Holsters must be practical for all-day concealed-carry use. In a nutshell, IDPA requires "working" holsters, not competition holsters.Comment
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IMO the Safariland 568 paddle is a fine choice..http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=568
and for mags the
"Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
George Orwell
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All steel has to be calibrated to the minimum power floor, in IDPA it was lowered from 125 to 105 in Jan 2011 to accommodate SSR division. That will almost go over with a .22LR. If you are not knocking down steel with a 9mm, it's either a low hit or the steel is not calibrated.In IDPA there is a physical difference in shooting steel knockdown targets between 9mm and .45. I started out using a 9mm 226 and while the "extra" rounds in the mag was nice I found with steel knockdown targets I had to have a solid hit or occasionally the steel wouldn't drop
. When I changed to a .45 1911 that pretty much went away but recoil is greater.Comment
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Yup. I've done IDPA before and did just fine with 9mm on the steel.All steel has to be calibrated to the minimum power floor, in IDPA it was lowered from 125 to 105 in Jan 2011 to accommodate SSR division. That will almost go over with a .22LR. If you are not knocking down steel with a 9mm, it's either a low hit or the steel is not calibrated.
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+1 on a Wilderness belt
+1 on BladeTech Kydex holster (the Bobby McGee set will get you a double mag holster also)
+1 on the Beretta not being the weapon of choice for IDPA.
As far as a .22 knocking down steel poppers, surely not anywhere I have shot IDPA
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