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  • coreymcdonald855
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 20

    Non-Lethal HD

    Hey Calgunners, here's the scoop: My wife is moving home (Illinois) in a few short weeks and I'll be stuck here in San Diego for a few more months. I have offered (begged) to buy here a small caliber handgun, just in case, because it will be her and my 2 year old in a small town. A town that happens to have plenty of meth heads. However, she is very, VERY clear that she does not want to have a gun (sort of, you'll see what I mean in a second) in the house unless it's mine and I'm there. So my question is this: What can I get her that will ensure that she will be able to protect herself and our child if someone were to threaten their well-being? I've been eyeballing "less lethal" bean bag rounds and tasers and such. Don't ask me why she is OK with a 12 guage bean bag and not 12 guage buckshot, the inner workings of a woman are a mystery to me. I'd love to get an opinion. Thanks!
  • #2
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    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44646

    Tazer or pepper spray.
    Digression: Both are 'less than lethal'; ordinarily they're called 'non-lethal' but there have been deaths associated with their use, and folks are still arguing about the causes. Manufacturers, of course, argue their products are safe. Attorneys for the deceased disagree.

    Both are 'shoot and scoot' - don't stay around to admire the effects, disable/distract the attacker and move.
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    • #3
      mes227
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 136

      I got my daughter a taser when she moved to Orange County.

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      • #4
        tradecraft
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 4618

        Pepper spray and a dog - it seems she doesn't want to shoot anything, and that's not something you're going to be able to change in a few weeks.
        Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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        • #5
          coreymcdonald855
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 20

          @scottschoe: Good point

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          • #6
            Rogue187
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 1157

            Bear Guard and big mastiff..

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            • #7
              m98
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2005
              • 4088

              You gotta remember these......


              "Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman

              10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>

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              • #8
                jbooker9
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 979

                Get some buckshot and write non lethal on it . But seriously consider a large dog my wifes security guard is 180 pounds and would defend her at all cost he's my avatar.

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                • #9
                  m98
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4088

                  Originally posted by jbooker9
                  Get some buckshot and write non lethal on it . But seriously consider a large dog my wifes security guard is 180 pounds and would defend her at all cost he's my avatar.
                  Damn 180lbs. Great dane? U should tacticool out ur dog with a doggy tac vest, oc, tasers
                  "Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman

                  10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>

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                  • #10
                    jbooker9
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 979

                    Originally posted by m98
                    Damn 180lbs. Great dane? U should tacticool out ur dog with a doggy tac vest, oc, tasers
                    He's a great dane/english mastiff, I'm sure my wife would like to dress him up at least she tried to for christmas. Here's a better picture

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44093

                      Dog first. Pepper spray second, gun with normal ammo third, pet skunk fourth, sharp stick, baseball bat, .............. notice, not once did I think that less lethal bean bag or rubber rounds would be a decent choice. PLEASE, do not EVER load less lethal ammo for use in a life or death defensive situation. Even the police do NOT use less lethal force without others right next to them prepared to use regular ammo to nuetralize any threat. You girl is not trained to use less lethal ammo and it would NEVER be correct to use it when trying to stop an immediate threat.
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                      • #12
                        thetaxman
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 885

                        Originally posted by jbooker9
                        He's a great dane/english mastiff, I'm sure my wife would like to dress him up at least she tried to for christmas. Here's a better picture
                        That's a medium sized pony, not a dog.
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                        • #13
                          m98
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 4088

                          ^^^^^. Thats a beautiful mans companion. Ur dog has the "looks of a cute kitty that can transform into the T1000" if its defcon button gets pressed.
                          "Screw U guys, I'm going home"...:the great Eric Cartman

                          10mm. Because .45ACP just doesn't cut it anymore. <Trailerparktrash>

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                          • #14
                            Howard Roark
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 24

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                            Originally posted by coreymcdonald855
                            ... My wife is moving home (Illinois) in a few short weeks... she does not want to have a gun... What can I get her that will ensure that she will be able to protect herself and our child...I've been eyeballing "less lethal"... tasers
                            Maybe you and your family can join us at IGOLD 2012 (Illinois Gun Owner Lobby Day), the largest annual gun-carry demonstration in America. Sorry, but Tazers, cannot be carried outside the home in Illinois, and it is a felony to do so, unless unloaded and completely enclosed in a case. I guess "unloaded" for a Taser would probably mean the battery must be removed. If you thought California gun laws are bad, welcome the Land of Lincoln.

                            Check us out on IllinoisCarry.com. A lot like CalGuns.net, only more local. My wife has a S&W .38 special revolver, eventually yours will come around.

                            Upstate or downstate?

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                            • #15
                              Howard Roark
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 24

                              I'm 98 percent sure "Less that lethal" shotgun ammo is illegal in Illinois. Apparently the NannyState legislature wants people to "shoot-to-kill", since they haven't banned 00 buckshot yet.

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