Crazy compensator question

[lowk_18]

Ever since I saw and read about the levang linear compensator, I've been wanting one. The concept of a compensator that reduced perceived noise was really appealing to me. Not annoying the hell out of my fellow shooters like a regular compensator would is just icing on the cake.

So my question is: Am I the only person interested in the concept of a linear compensator that is six inches long? I'm thinking that it would compensate more and redirect the muzzle blast even better (thus reducing perceived noise even more).

I would LOVE to have a suppressor (which is better in every way, including compensation), but we live in CA so that's not possible. So I'm thinking of this as kind of a nice second prize.

The idea has even gone through my head of "what if the levang compensator were threaded so you could screw as many of them onto the end of your rifle that you wanted?".

I'm not even sure if this idea has any merit. Feel free to call me a lunatic. My fiance does all the time.

[saki302]

A longer levang won't do a thing.

IMO the principle of the levang is it reduces the gas thrust component of recoil by diverting it at a slight angle. A proper (loud!) brake will use the gas thrust to pull the rifle forward by diverting it back to you- the levang does not.

If you made a long levang it would do the same thing. It might reduce the noise a touch- but no more than if you xtended your barrel 4"- which would giv eyou a velocity boost.

If you want quiet- get the longest barrel you can.

-Dave

[r3dn3ck]

how does BATF not classify the levang as a suppressor? It has a large expansion chamber and is purpose built to reduce perceived noise. Look for a retard-ruling from them on that before too long. They finally got around to calling a barrel shroud a suppressor (gsg5)

[HighLander51]

Go with the Miculek for $30. It's a real compensator that works and can be indexed.

[lowk_18]

A longer levang won't do a thing.

IMO the principle of the levang is it reduces the gas thrust component of recoil by diverting it at a slight angle. A proper (loud!) brake will use the gas thrust to pull the rifle forward by diverting it back to you- the levang does not.

If you made a long levang it would do the same thing. It might reduce the noise a touch- but no more than if you xtended your barrel 4"- which would giv eyou a velocity boost.

If you want quiet- get the longest barrel you can.

-Dave

From what I've been reading, people have been surprised at the noise reduction. I think it's more than what just having a longer barrel of the same length would be. I'm guessing it's partially because it's diverting the gas at that slight angle and the gases cool a bit before they're vented out of the front.

So if the linear compensator were longer with more slightly angled vents, it would give the gases more time to cool while providing slightly more compensation ( I think we can all agree that the levang is pretty weak in actual compensation anyway ).

The question becomes: At what point would a compensator like that be classified as a suppressor? This is a lot like the "is it a compensator or a flash hider?" question.

Would it escape suppressor status because it's venting the gases instead of trying to contain and cool them?

[HighLander51]

surefire sound suppressor

or

muzzle break (compensator)


flash hider

[lowk_18]

I'm talking about grey areas. Do you really not understand that or are you just trolling?

[Merc1138]

So basically you want one of these for a rifle?

http://www.kebcollc.com/cart/store.php?crn=209&rn=596&action=show_detail

[lowk_18]

Whoa. I've never seen those before. Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I would like except in a rifle barrel. So those don't get classified as an integral suppressor even though it reduces noise that much?

[Merc1138]

Whoa. I've never seen those before. Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I would like except in a rifle barrel. So those don't get classified as an integral suppressor even though it reduces noise that much?

It's also a 32" long barrel extension. It doesn't "reduce" noise, so much as it moves the end of the barrel further away.

[saki302]

Old post but-

The levang may reduce noise for the shooter, but it won't reduce overall noise from the front- not any more than running a 2" or 4" longer barrel would.

A true suppressor would have enclosed baffles to slow the gas release- even a long levang would only result in the noise dispersing forwards.

I've shot through a levang before with an AR- it's still loud- just as loud as an un-braked rifle IMO (remember the '94 post ban rifles?), but much quieter than something with a brake or flash hider. Want a quiet .223? Try a Remington 700 with a 26" barrel.

-Dave

[Mickael81]

So.... you can buy a 7" barrel and run a 9" comp. 16" BAM!!!!