Complicated Intra-Familial Transfer

[Rekrab]

So my dad is from Montana, the last time we did a transfer he mailed it to my FFL via FedEx and that was simple enough. This time he brought it to California and I'm still in my 30 days. If he were to leave the handgun with me with a copy of his driver license and a gift letter could I personally take it down to the FFL and do the transfer after my 30 days are up?

Or if anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear.

[Carsgunsandchics]

So my dad is from Montana, the last time we did a transfer he mailed it to my FFL via FedEx and that was simple enough. This time he brought it to California and I'm still in my 30 days. If he were to leave the handgun with me with a copy of his driver license and a gift letter could I personally take it down to the FFL and do the transfer after my 30 days are up?

Or if anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear.

30 day does not apply to ppt/interfamilial , but someone will speak up on what form is needed or just how to go about it.

[G-forceJunkie]

I would have your dad deliver it to the ffl. Or worst case (and probably the easiest) have him fed x it to the dealer. I wouldnt worry about the 30 days, the ffl will just hold it (I would pay them first) untill the dros can be put through. Keeping the firearms chain of custody legal is the more difficult part.

[CSACANNONEER]

30 days on ALL handgun transfers ONLY applies in the CITY of Los Angeles. Just go to any FFL outside of the city limits.

[Rekrab]

A post made by Librarian in a separate thread led me to believe that an out of state intra-familial transfer would be counted as a dealer transfer.

[4DSJW]

A post made by Librarian in a separate thread led me to believe that an out of state intra-familial transfer would be counted as a dealer transfer.

That is correct. CA doesn't care about using an FFL for an Intrafamilial Transfer, it is a Federal Gov't requirement since the firearm is crossing State lines. Your dad can ship it to your FFL or he can carry it in in person. If your dad has left the State and the gun is still here then I don't know where that leaves you, if he is still here then the two of you going to your FFL together and doing the transfer is the way to go.

[Cokebottle]

Dad can still hand-deliver the gun to an 01 right now.
Since he is not a California resident, it will still be an FFL transfer, not a $35 PPT.
The FFL can hold the gun until your 30 days are up and you may then begin DROS. Make sure to arrange everything with the FFL, some may not be comfortable with the hand delivery, and some may charge a storage fee.

You must NOT take direct possession and retain it after he leaves (he can loan it to you while he is here)... it has to go through an 01.

[Quiet]

Dad can still hand-deliver the gun to an 01 right now.
Since he is not a California resident, it will still be an FFL transfer, not a $35 PPT.
The FFL can hold the gun until your 30 days are up and you may then begin DROS. Make sure to arrange everything with the FFL, some may not be comfortable with the hand delivery, and some may charge a storage fee.

You must NOT take direct possession and retain it after he leaves (he can loan it to you while he is here)... it has to go through an 01.

[CSACANNONEER]

A post made by Librarian in a separate thread led me to believe that an out of state intra-familial transfer would be counted as a dealer transfer.

Yea, as a practical matter DOJ does make FFLs do that. However, technically, there is nothing in the law to preclude a PPT from occuring with an out of state seller and a California resident.

[Cokebottle]

Yea, as a practical matter DOJ does make FFLs do that. However, technically, there is nothing in the law to preclude a PPT from occuring with an out of state seller and a California resident.

Nothing in the law, but the DROS software will only accept a California ID for the seller's ID.

Underground regulation.

[SJgunguy24]

Nothing in the law, but the DROS software will only accept a California ID for the seller's ID.

Underground regulation.

IIRC they can call it in. The state is breaking the federal commerce clause and needs to be called out for violating our rights.